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    89th
    wrote on 16 Sept 2020, 12:28 last edited by
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    I’m curious what kind of long-term effects this might have on kids.

    For example, when I’m out with my two-year-old daughter and another kid runs up to her, often times their parent will tell them to stay away. Or when in an elevator, and my daughter tries to touch buttons, I have to tell her don’t touch because they are dirty.

    We might have a generation of <insert germaphobe reference> kids in a few years...

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 16 Sept 2020, 13:26 last edited by
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      Maybe. I don’t know if there were any obvious effects on the 1918 generation.

      Reminds me, Robert McNamara once said his earliest memory was being on a streetcar in San Francisco with everyone wearing masks.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on 16 Sept 2020, 13:38 last edited by
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        I agree with Jon. I think mainly people have pretty short memories.

        I always think of people with houses on the east coast that get hit with a typhoon, and then they build it again, and then there is another typhoon or flooding.

        Then, there will be the interview with somebody and they will say something like:

        "This reminds me of 1983, and then we had the flooding in 1990, but that wasn't as bad as 1996. But when I think of it, 2003 was pretty close, though in 2008, it only was 1 foot in the basement with floods. I stopped putting things on the basement floor then. But, then came 2009......................................... "

        After 9/11, there was talk that nobody would ever want to live in a downtown area. I think that lasted about a year or so. LOL

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          Mik
          wrote on 16 Sept 2020, 13:39 last edited by
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          Depends how long it goes on. Parents have always encouraged their kids to avoid certain things. Not sure this is significantly different.

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            Jolly
            wrote on 16 Sept 2020, 13:56 last edited by
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            I don’t know if there were any obvious effects on the 1918 generation.

            WW2?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • 8 89th
              16 Sept 2020, 12:28

              I’m curious what kind of long-term effects this might have on kids.

              For example, when I’m out with my two-year-old daughter and another kid runs up to her, often times their parent will tell them to stay away. Or when in an elevator, and my daughter tries to touch buttons, I have to tell her don’t touch because they are dirty.

              We might have a generation of <insert germaphobe reference> kids in a few years...

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              Jolly
              wrote on 16 Sept 2020, 13:58 last edited by
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              @89th said in Random COVID thought:

              I’m curious what kind of long-term effects this might have on kids.

              For example, when I’m out with my two-year-old daughter and another kid runs up to her, often times their parent will tell them to stay away. Or when in an elevator, and my daughter tries to touch buttons, I have to tell her don’t touch because they are dirty.

              We might have a generation of <insert germaphobe reference> kids in a few years...

              In all seriousness...

              We may kill more people through suicide and long-term psychological effects than from the virus.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • 8 89th
                16 Sept 2020, 12:28

                I’m curious what kind of long-term effects this might have on kids.

                For example, when I’m out with my two-year-old daughter and another kid runs up to her, often times their parent will tell them to stay away. Or when in an elevator, and my daughter tries to touch buttons, I have to tell her don’t touch because they are dirty.

                We might have a generation of <insert germaphobe reference> kids in a few years...

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                Copper
                wrote on 16 Sept 2020, 14:06 last edited by
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                @89th said in Random COVID thought:

                I’m curious what kind of long-term effects this might have on kids.

                We might have a generation of <insert germaphobe reference> kids in a few years...

                That is a problem for democrats.

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                • J Jolly
                  16 Sept 2020, 13:58

                  @89th said in Random COVID thought:

                  I’m curious what kind of long-term effects this might have on kids.

                  For example, when I’m out with my two-year-old daughter and another kid runs up to her, often times their parent will tell them to stay away. Or when in an elevator, and my daughter tries to touch buttons, I have to tell her don’t touch because they are dirty.

                  We might have a generation of <insert germaphobe reference> kids in a few years...

                  In all seriousness...

                  We may kill more people through suicide and long-term psychological effects than from the virus.

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 16 Sept 2020, 14:42 last edited by
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                  @Jolly said in Random COVID thought:

                  In all seriousness...
                  We may kill more people through suicide and long-term psychological effects than from the virus.

                  Compare annual suicide rates, convert it to daily, and then look at the daily COVID fatality numbers. It's not even remotely close.

                  Mostly because the vast majority of us are back to their old lives. You're telling me people are offing themselves in droves because they have to wear a mask to get into 7-eleven?

                  Please love yourself.

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 16 Sept 2020, 15:00 last edited by
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                    The issue we have is Finley really needs to be socializing with other children his age.

                    The Brad

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 16 Sept 2020, 15:02 last edited by
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                      @89th 89th, you need to pick a family with a similar aged toddler that your little girl can play with. The risk/reward ratio is flipped at this point.

                      The Brad

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                        16 Sept 2020, 14:42

                        @Jolly said in Random COVID thought:

                        In all seriousness...
                        We may kill more people through suicide and long-term psychological effects than from the virus.

                        Compare annual suicide rates, convert it to daily, and then look at the daily COVID fatality numbers. It's not even remotely close.

                        Mostly because the vast majority of us are back to their old lives. You're telling me people are offing themselves in droves because they have to wear a mask to get into 7-eleven?

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 16 Sept 2020, 16:55 last edited by
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                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Random COVID thought:

                        @Jolly said in Random COVID thought:

                        In all seriousness...
                        We may kill more people through suicide and long-term psychological effects than from the virus.

                        Compare annual suicide rates, convert it to daily, and then look at the daily COVID fatality numbers. It's not even remotely close.

                        Mostly because the vast majority of us are back to their old lives. You're telling me people are offing themselves in droves because they have to wear a mask to get into 7-eleven?

                        The effects are going to be long-lasting. There are people who will have tons of problems due to isolation, job loss, etc. Some of this will result in suicide, some in substance abuse, etc. Maybe not this year, but within a few years.

                        I do worry about the kids...They're missing school, with it's face-to-face learning and socialization. Some of those effects can be life-long.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • J Jolly
                          16 Sept 2020, 16:55

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Random COVID thought:

                          @Jolly said in Random COVID thought:

                          In all seriousness...
                          We may kill more people through suicide and long-term psychological effects than from the virus.

                          Compare annual suicide rates, convert it to daily, and then look at the daily COVID fatality numbers. It's not even remotely close.

                          Mostly because the vast majority of us are back to their old lives. You're telling me people are offing themselves in droves because they have to wear a mask to get into 7-eleven?

                          The effects are going to be long-lasting. There are people who will have tons of problems due to isolation, job loss, etc. Some of this will result in suicide, some in substance abuse, etc. Maybe not this year, but within a few years.

                          I do worry about the kids...They're missing school, with it's face-to-face learning and socialization. Some of those effects can be life-long.

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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on 16 Sept 2020, 17:23 last edited by
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                          @Jolly said in Random COVID thought:

                          I do worry about the kids...They're missing school, with it's face-to-face learning and socialization. Some of those effects can be life-long.

                          No other time in human history has our society been better equipped to handle a crisis like this.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 16 Sept 2020, 17:35 last edited by
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                            If I'd lived in 1919 I'd have thought the world was ending. The biggest war in history followed immediately by a horrendous pandemic.

                            There is no way this is as bad as that. Not sure what the suicide rates were back then. I know relatives who still had nightmares about the trenches 50 years later, but none of them even mentioned the pandemic.

                            I was only joking

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                              16 Sept 2020, 15:02

                              @89th 89th, you need to pick a family with a similar aged toddler that your little girl can play with. The risk/reward ratio is flipped at this point.

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                              89th
                              wrote on 16 Sept 2020, 20:43 last edited by
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                              @LuFins-Dad said in Random COVID thought:

                              @89th 89th, you need to pick a family with a similar aged toddler that your little girl can play with. The risk/reward ratio is flipped at this point.

                              So we have sent her back to daycare 3 days a week. Mainly for the social aspect, but also to give us a break as we work from home full time.

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