400,000
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Number of Federal jobs cut under Clinton.
Just keeping things in perspective...
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Yeah but the approach was different. Trump is trying to cut costs and chase headlines, Clinton took the approach (that I've mentioned here) where he tasked a couple hundred top civil servants to report back in 6 months with recommendations on what can be cut to make the government still perform its duties but in a more efficient fashion, and then Clinton went to congress to seek legislation to make it happen.
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Clinton had a Congress that did its job.
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On most every metric we care about.
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Sure, Mr. Clinton is good, Mr. Trump is bad.
I get it.
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Clinton had a Congress that did its job.
True but I mean, would congress today not pass legislation Trump asks for as it relates to most of his federal-government wrecking ball ideas? He has until 2027 when the next blue wave takes away that ability.
Of course they could. But would they? You think these guys want to go home and say they voted to put half a million people out of work?
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I don’t know how you’d effectively deregulate and simplify the government.
DOGE seems too blunt, but something like the Grace Commission under Reagan turned out to be toothless.
I dunno…. An ineffective Congress means a government where it’s much easier to add things than take them away.
I guess that makes me slightly more sympathetic to DOGE, in the sense that it’s something.
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Clinton had a Congress that did its job.
True but I mean, would congress today not pass legislation Trump asks for as it relates to most of his federal-government wrecking ball ideas? He has until 2027 when the next blue wave takes away that ability.
Of course they could. But would they? You think these guys want to go home and say they voted to put half a million people out of work?
wrote 7 days ago last edited byClinton had a Congress that did its job.
True but I mean, would congress today not pass legislation Trump asks for as it relates to most of his federal-government wrecking ball ideas? He has until 2027 when the next blue wave takes away that ability.
Of course they could. But would they? You think these guys want to go home and say they voted to put half a million people out of work?
Think Copper summed it up pretty well ...
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I had a similar thought. Bill Clinton would look downright conservative by today’s standards.
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He didn't start that way, but when Newt's GOP crushed the Democrats in the 94 midterms he just pivoted and very masterfully stole their platform. Didn't call him Slick Willy for nothing.
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(I guess they could have called him Hawk Tuah Willy, but that would be ahead of his time)
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He didn't start that way, but when Newt's GOP crushed the Democrats in the 94 midterms he just pivoted and very masterfully stole their platform. Didn't call him Slick Willy for nothing.
wrote 7 days ago last edited byHe didn't start that way, but when Newt's GOP crushed the Democrats in the 94 midterms he just pivoted and very masterfully stole their platform. Didn't call him Slick Willy for nothing.
Carney is doing a similar thing in Canada right now. He’s adopting some of the policy positions from Conservatives and dropping the MAGA overtones.
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He didn't start that way, but when Newt's GOP crushed the Democrats in the 94 midterms he just pivoted and very masterfully stole their platform. Didn't call him Slick Willy for nothing.
wrote 7 days ago last edited byHe didn't start that way, but when Newt's GOP crushed the Democrats in the 94 midterms he just pivoted and very masterfully stole their platform. Didn't call him Slick Willy for nothing.
I don’t know about that. He campaigned in 1992 that he was going to ‘end welfare as we know it’ and put 10k cops on the streets.
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He also tried national healthcare.
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He didn't start that way, but when Newt's GOP crushed the Democrats in the 94 midterms he just pivoted and very masterfully stole their platform. Didn't call him Slick Willy for nothing.
Carney is doing a similar thing in Canada right now. He’s adopting some of the policy positions from Conservatives and dropping the MAGA overtones.
wrote 6 days ago last edited by RenaudaHe didn't start that way, but when Newt's GOP crushed the Democrats in the 94 midterms he just pivoted and very masterfully stole their platform. Didn't call him Slick Willy for nothing.
Carney is doing a similar thing in Canada right now. He’s adopting some of the policy positions from Conservatives and dropping the MAGA overtones.
He’s moving the Liberal Party back to its traditional place at the centre left and bringing in disillusioned red Tories (Joe Clark PCs) who the Poilievre Conservatives have unceremoniously abandoned