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The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Their War Plans

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #53

    This is concerning as it seems to imply Trump’s view is the inclusion of Goldberg was the only issue here. As opposed to using civilian communications channels which they’re all guilty of.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • kluursK Offline
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      #54

      I wonder how many congressional investigations. Does Fox cover this?

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        jon-nyc
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        #55

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        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          #56

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            #57

            https://dodcio.defense.gov/Portals/0/Documents/Library/Memo-UseOfUnclassMobileApps.pdf

            SUBJECT: Use of Unclassified Mobile Applications in Department of Defense

            Mobile applications (apps) are software products designed to function on mobile devices. The misuse and mismanagement of mobile apps poses a cybersecurity and operations security (OPSEC) risk and may result in the unauthorized disclosure of controlled unclassified information (CUI) and unclassified Department of Defense (DoD) information that has not been approved for public release (hereinafter jointly referred to as "non-public DoD information") and jeopardize operations, strategies, or missions, as described in references (b) and ( c ). This memorandum provides guidance on the use of mobile apps on unclassified DoD government owned, leased or issued, mobile devices (hereinafter referred to as "government owned mobile devices") and on the managed partition of non government owned mobile devices approved in accordance with reference (d) (hereinafter referred to as "Approved Mobile Device" (AMD)).

            Numerous mobile apps access or use non-public DoD information (e.g., authorized email apps, collaboration apps, command/control apps). Other applications may be used in support of mission requirements but do not directly access non-public DoD information (e.g., travel and educational apps). Although mobile apps can provide ease of use and increased functionality for users across the Department, there are risks that must be considered. Mobile apps may contain malware or have vulnerabilities that can disclose CUI, personally identifiable information (PII), non public DoD information not approved for public release, or other sensitive information. This is all possible without the user's consent or knowledge.

            In accordance with DoD Instruction 5200.48, DoD personnel will not use non-DoD accounts or personal e-mail accounts, messaging systems or other non-public DoD information systems, except approved or authorized government contractor systems, to conduct official business involving CUI. In accordance with DoD Instruction 5200.01, DoD personnel will not use unclassified systems, government issued or otherwise, for classified national security information. DoD CIO will continuously consult with all DoD Components to evaluate risks mobile applications may present to the DoD and update References (m), (n), and (o), as appropriate.

            My understanding is that breaking this rule is grounds for dismissal from the military. 🤷

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              #58

              Lock ‘em up!

              The Brad

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              • HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
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                #59

                Fang fang sighting

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                Education is extremely important.

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                • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  Didn't Barron provide them with advice on this type of thing?

                  I was only joking

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    #61

                    He told them to use a CCP owned platform.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      Lock ‘em up!

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                      #62

                      @LuFins-Dad said in The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Their War Plans:

                      Lock ‘em up!

                      Somebody had to say it.

                      They actually had the balls to claim that this wasn't a big mistake.

                      I would have asked, "So, you did it deliberately?"

                      I was only joking

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        #63

                        Obviously the choice to use a commercial system was willful and committed by everyone in the group.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          #64

                          Jonah Goldberg’s haters keep confusing him with Jeffrey.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            There’s a hearing today. The talking points are mainly two. That the information shared on Signal was not classified, and that Signal is a normally used and approved messaging system. The opposition senators are salivating at an investigation.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              #66

                              The hearing was coincidentally timed, not supposed to be about this, but it’s mostly about this.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                There’s a hearing today. The talking points are mainly two. That the information shared on Signal was not classified, and that Signal is a normally used and approved messaging system. The opposition senators are salivating at an investigation.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                @Horace said in The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Their War Plans:

                                There’s a hearing today. The talking points are mainly two. That the information shared on Signal was not classified, and that Signal is a normally used and approved messaging system. The opposition senators are salivating at an investigation.

                                That seems false. Surely the launch times and targets were classified. When the spokesperson talked about it today she was careful to say ‘no classified materials’ instead of ‘information’. As they didn’t force documents with classified stamps on them down the signal wire.

                                There’s a way to test this. Have Goldberg offer to publish everything.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  It’s a tortured framing to be sure.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      In the hearing you can see they have a general approach to say "nothing was classified" but Warner said just to release the text then. Either it's classified or it's not.

                                      I am guessing since technically what Hegseth sent out in terms of attack details probably didn't have a "TOP SECRET" classified banner/block on it, then they're arguing it wasn't teeeeeeeeechnically classified. It's a big stretch and certainly one that would get a normal worker bee fired if they had sent war plan attack specifics via Signal or other encrypted chat apps.

                                      Signal is used by government officials, even in the intel world, but it's not approved for handling classified information.

                                      The highlights from the hearing are fun.

                                      Link to video

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @Horace said in The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Their War Plans:

                                        There’s a hearing today. The talking points are mainly two. That the information shared on Signal was not classified, and that Signal is a normally used and approved messaging system. The opposition senators are salivating at an investigation.

                                        That seems false. Surely the launch times and targets were classified. When the spokesperson talked about it today she was careful to say ‘no classified materials’ instead of ‘information’. As they didn’t force documents with classified stamps on them down the signal wire.

                                        There’s a way to test this. Have Goldberg offer to publish everything.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        @jon-nyc said in The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Their War Plans:

                                        There’s a way to test this. Have Goldberg offer to publish everything.

                                        “You can’t have it both ways”.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          #72

                                          FoxNews now saying they were Top Secret. Which is really fucking obvious based on Goldberg’s description.

                                          (FoxNews must have decided this wasn’t going to die in one day and they had to treat it seriously.)

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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