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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #1

    Trump EOs being blocked by the courts at a higher rate than his predecessors.

    https://nypost.com/2025/03/23/us-news/lower-courts-blocking-trumps-executive-orders-at-much-higher-rate-than-predecessors/

    When you actually set out to test established executive power boundaries then this isn’t surprising, it’s literally the plan.

    Someone once said that Maga analysis comes in two forms: ‘Trump is DESTROYING his enemies’ and ‘Mr Trump is being treated very unfairly’. Nothing in between.

    You were warned.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      It's a dual thing...Trump pushes, but there is lawfare resistance to almost anything contestable he does. ☯️

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        So we have a new working definition of lawfare: any legal action that Trump doesn’t like.

        You were warned.

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          It seemed like people didn’t really like when Obama expanded the power of the executive or when Biden did things that were obviously over reach (e.g. loan forgiveness).

          Does MAGA want an expanded executive? Trump is pretty much saying we’re on war /national emergency footing at all times. (Tariffs, deportation, etc.). So he can do things that would normally be reserved for Congress. Presumably the next dem will get those powers too.

          Is this a good thing?

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
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            #5

            Hypocrites every last one of them.

            You were warned.

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              jon-nyc
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              The worrying thing is they know that they are intentionally pushing executive power boundaries and that injunctions and appeals are part of that process. It makes you think they’re just harping about how unreasonable the idea of judicial review is so that the maga base will support defying the courts when they decide to do it. Which of course the base will, because, magats.

              You were warned.

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                NobodySock
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                Magats gonna magat.

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                  xenon
                  wrote on last edited by xenon
                  #8

                  I’m not saying this to be dramatic - but I get the sense that a lot of Americans genuinely love America, but kinda don’t know what the constitution is.

                  Or they might see it as something akin to the national anthem, or historical relic that marked the beginning of our country.

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                    I have no issue with actions being challenged in the courts. It's a sign of health. Is it inconvenient? Sure. But I suspect Biden found it that way too. Trump is testing the boundaries. I have no problem with that either. We'll be fine.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      We’ll be fine if he doesn’t openly defy judicial rulings. If he does I’m not sure how we get the toothpaste back in the tube.

                      You were warned.

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                        Mik
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                        https://mitchthelawyer.substack.com/p/what-happens-when-a-president-defies

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          We’ll be fine if he doesn’t openly defy judicial rulings. If he does I’m not sure how we get the toothpaste back in the tube.

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                          @jon-nyc said in Duh:

                          We’ll be fine if he doesn’t openly defy judicial rulings. If he does I’m not sure how we get the toothpaste back in the tube.

                          Where's that Huge Manatee gif when you need it?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            @jon-nyc said in Duh:

                            We’ll be fine if he doesn’t openly defy judicial rulings. If he does I’m not sure how we get the toothpaste back in the tube.

                            Where's that Huge Manatee gif when you need it?

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            @Jolly said in Duh:

                            Where's that Huge Manatee gif when you need it?

                            ee6973ae-e467-4c34-b012-ae31400f4c4c-image.png

                            Huge man - a tee....get it????

                            I was only joking

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