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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    Is there any country on this earth that does not prefer wealthy immigrants to poor ones?

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      Common sense. I like it.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Wealthy immigrants should each be accompanied by a few poor people so the democrats can have someone to vote for them.

        And the wealthy people could also use the poor people to do the jobs that ax doesn't want.

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          If you can run a good company, there's good money in cutting grass...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Yes there is. Two guys can rake in $100 an hour each.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              Is there any country on this earth that does not prefer wealthy immigrants to poor ones?

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              @Mik said in 1000 Gold Cards:

              Is there any country on this earth that does not prefer wealthy immigrants to poor ones?

              Probably not, maybe the inscription on the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty is just for show.

              In any event, we should probably start thinking about offering "Titanium Cards" ($10 Million a pop?), "Diamond Cards" ($20 Million a pop?), "Special Edition Deca-Titanium Cards" ($100 Million a pop?), the "Ultra Luxury Platinum Cards" ($1 Billion a pop?), the "Ultimate Adamantium Cards" ($10 Billion a pop?), the "Unlimited Supreme Vibranium Cards" ($100 Billion a pop?), etc. Each card may get a Presidential Autopen Signature add-on for a 50% surcharge on top of the base price, or an Original Presidential Handdrawn Signature add-on for a 200% surcharge on top of the base price.

              See, I knew putting a flat screen display at the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty is a great idea -- now it can display the whole menu of options and add-ons.

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              • MikM Offline
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                And yet Ax would be the first among us to state that the Constitution as it was written does not apply to today because well, today is DIFFERENT.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  When did the law get passed in implemented? Real question?

                  Also, why buy a gold visa when you can get US permanent residency through an EB5? an eb5 lets you invest 800k dollars into a business in exchange for a green card.

                  Why would someone chose a gold visa over that?

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                    Headlines I guess?

                    Nutlick also said in that interview if they stopped social security payments no one would complain except fraudsters. He’s a sycophantic idiot that likes to regurgitate Musk.

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                    • X xenon

                      When did the law get passed in implemented? Real question?

                      Also, why buy a gold visa when you can get US permanent residency through an EB5? an eb5 lets you invest 800k dollars into a business in exchange for a green card.

                      Why would someone chose a gold visa over that?

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                      @xenon said in 1000 Gold Cards:

                      When did the law get passed in implemented? Real question?

                      Not aware of any legal justification for the Gold Card being articulated by the administration.

                      Also, why buy a gold visa when you can get US permanent residency through an EB5? an eb5 lets you invest 800k dollars into a business in exchange for a green card.

                      Simply wiring $5 million into a designated government account vs. setting up a business and adhering to follow-up reporting requirements -- which one is easier, simpler, faster, more predictable?

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        @xenon said in 1000 Gold Cards:

                        When did the law get passed in implemented? Real question?

                        Not aware of any legal justification for the Gold Card being articulated by the administration.

                        Also, why buy a gold visa when you can get US permanent residency through an EB5? an eb5 lets you invest 800k dollars into a business in exchange for a green card.

                        Simply wiring $5 million into a designated government account vs. setting up a business and adhering to follow-up reporting requirements -- which one is easier, simpler, faster, more predictable?

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                        @Axtremus said in 1000 Gold Cards:

                        Not aware of any legal justification for the Gold Card being articulated by the administration.

                        I believe the burden of legal justification would be on those who would claim it is illegal. There is no current law on the books stating "whatever Trump does is illegal", though my god-empress AOC is currently drafting such legislation.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @xenon said in 1000 Gold Cards:

                          When did the law get passed in implemented? Real question?

                          Not aware of any legal justification for the Gold Card being articulated by the administration.

                          Also, why buy a gold visa when you can get US permanent residency through an EB5? an eb5 lets you invest 800k dollars into a business in exchange for a green card.

                          Simply wiring $5 million into a designated government account vs. setting up a business and adhering to follow-up reporting requirements -- which one is easier, simpler, faster, more predictable?

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                          @Axtremus said in 1000 Gold Cards:

                          @xenon said in 1000 Gold Cards:

                          When did the law get passed in implemented? Real question?

                          Not aware of any legal justification for the Gold Card being articulated by the administration.

                          Also, why buy a gold visa when you can get US permanent residency through an EB5? an eb5 lets you invest 800k dollars into a business in exchange for a green card.

                          Simply wiring $5 million into a designated government account vs. setting up a business and adhering to follow-up reporting requirements -- which one is easier, simpler, faster, more predictable?

                          Sure, but you get to keep your money with one and give it away in the other.

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                            I'm pretty sure if you can afford the $5M without sweating it you'd be a pretty welcome immigrant.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              xenon
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                              What’s the point though, is my question, when the eb5 exists and you get to keep your money with it?

                              I’m asking from the immigrant’s perspective.

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                                That's what I meant. I doubt the gold card would make you more desirable. Not sure what red tape it cuts.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • X xenon

                                  What’s the point though, is my question, when the eb5 exists and you get to keep your money with it?

                                  I’m asking from the immigrant’s perspective.

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                                  @xenon said in 1000 Gold Cards:

                                  What’s the point though, is my question, when the eb5 exists and you get to keep your money with it?

                                  I’m asking from the immigrant’s perspective.

                                  That was my question. There was already a process to get a permanent resident that also included creating jobs.

                                  The new gold car does not mean there will be any jobs created. No need to do so.

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                                  • X xenon

                                    What’s the point though, is my question, when the eb5 exists and you get to keep your money with it?

                                    I’m asking from the immigrant’s perspective.

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                                    Axtremus
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                                    @xenon said in 1000 Gold Cards:

                                    I’m asking from the immigrant’s perspective.

                                    Speed and predictability ... some people are willing to pay for those.

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      @xenon said in 1000 Gold Cards:

                                      I’m asking from the immigrant’s perspective.

                                      Speed and predictability ... some people are willing to pay for those.

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                                      @Axtremus said in 1000 Gold Cards:

                                      @xenon said in 1000 Gold Cards:

                                      I’m asking from the immigrant’s perspective.

                                      Speed and predictability ... some people are willing to pay for those.

                                      Seems like a tiny market of people willing to give away $5m vs setting up even a crappy business with an administrator that would easily pass the $800k threshold.

                                      I’m not saying you’re wrong… but someone would have to be in a pretty hurried, specific position for that. Or $5m for them is absolute chump change.

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                                        I would think the latter.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Way easier and maybe in the long run cheaper than the 800k investment visa.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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