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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on 17 Mar 2025, 00:02 last edited by
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    Maybe President Trump just doesn't really like Kari Lake. LOL

    First he appoints her to lead VOA and then shuts it down.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 17 Mar 2025, 01:05 last edited by
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      She's doing what she was hired to do.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Axtremus
        wrote on 18 Mar 2025, 12:53 last edited by
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        Guess who else is happy about the Voice of America getting cut?

        https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/mar/18/chinese-state-media-celebrates-trumps-cuts-to-voice-of-america-and-radio-free-asia

        Chinese state media has reacted gleefully to the Trump administration’s decision to slash government funding to media organisations such as Radio Free Asia (RFA) and Voice of America (VOA).

        The Global Times, a daily English-language tabloid and Chinese Communist party mouthpiece, celebrated the cuts to the US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which oversees broadcasters such as VOA and RFA.

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          Renauda
          wrote on 18 Mar 2025, 13:38 last edited by
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          Naturally, Russia is very happy to see it all go:

          "Today is a holiday for me and my colleagues at RT and Sputnik. This is an awesome decision by Trump!” said Margarita Simonyan, editor-in-chief of the Kremlin-backed RT network and the Rossiya Segodnya news agency and a vocal cheerleader of Putin and the invasion of Ukraine. “We couldn’t shut them down, unfortunately, but America did so itself."

          https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/03/18/today-we-celebrate-kremlin-and-russian-propaganda-rejoice-as-trump-guts-rferl-voa-a88393

          Elbows up!

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 13:32 last edited by
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            So is China.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              Copper
              wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 14:52 last edited by
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              Do the Chinese pay Mr. Trump more or less than they pay the Biden crime family?

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                Horace
                wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 16:14 last edited by
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                when Russia or China likes something Trump does, it's proof that Trump is bad. When they don't like something Trump does, it's proof that Trump is bad. Either way, those who care most about what other countries think, are those who hate Donald Trump. And that stands to reason.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • H Horace
                  19 Mar 2025, 16:14

                  when Russia or China likes something Trump does, it's proof that Trump is bad. When they don't like something Trump does, it's proof that Trump is bad. Either way, those who care most about what other countries think, are those who hate Donald Trump. And that stands to reason.

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                  xenon
                  wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 16:22 last edited by
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                  @Horace said in Voice of America:

                  when Russia or China likes something Trump does, it's proof that Trump is bad. When they don't like something Trump does, it's proof that Trump is bad. Either way, those who care most about what other countries think, are those who hate Donald Trump. And that stands to reason.

                  You say that as if it’s bad or useless to care about what other countries think. (To the extent that a country can think)

                  I’d rephrase it as, Trump doesn’t realize how America’s place in the world uniquely advantages America

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                    19 Mar 2025, 16:22

                    @Horace said in Voice of America:

                    when Russia or China likes something Trump does, it's proof that Trump is bad. When they don't like something Trump does, it's proof that Trump is bad. Either way, those who care most about what other countries think, are those who hate Donald Trump. And that stands to reason.

                    You say that as if it’s bad or useless to care about what other countries think. (To the extent that a country can think)

                    I’d rephrase it as, Trump doesn’t realize how America’s place in the world uniquely advantages America

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 16:27 last edited by
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                    @xenon said in Voice of America:

                    @Horace said in Voice of America:

                    when Russia or China likes something Trump does, it's proof that Trump is bad. When they don't like something Trump does, it's proof that Trump is bad. Either way, those who care most about what other countries think, are those who hate Donald Trump. And that stands to reason.

                    You say that as if it’s bad or useless to care about what other countries think. (To the extent that a country can think)

                    I’d rephrase it as, Trump doesn’t realize how America’s place in the world uniquely advantages America

                    Economically, sure. Reports of the rest of the world being very disappointed in our moral standing, on the other hand, and how meaningful that is, well, the alleged importance of that is really convenient for certain rhetorical points, and that's about all I'll give it.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      xenon
                      wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 17:02 last edited by
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                      I think it matters in the very long run - the same way it matters if we have baseline morals across society within a country.

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                        19 Mar 2025, 17:02

                        I think it matters in the very long run - the same way it matters if we have baseline morals across society within a country.

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 17:52 last edited by
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                        @xenon said in Voice of America:

                        I think it matters in the very long run - the same way it matters if we have baseline morals across society within a country.

                        Agree.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 18:04 last edited by
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                          Good.

                          Then let's return to the Judeo-Christian values and the Puritan work ethic of a previous day in America.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            xenon
                            wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 18:06 last edited by
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                            Would be nice. The current guy ain’t quite there.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 18:11 last edited by
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                              Better than the half-dead POS we had in their the last four years.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 18:23 last edited by
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                                You know, I go to work every day, just as I have for the last 36 years. I don't need people telling me how to behave of an evening. I like a beer and a bit of rhythmic music. I've been known to use naughty words.

                                The Puritans can suck my dick.

                                I was only joking

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                                  19 Mar 2025, 18:23

                                  You know, I go to work every day, just as I have for the last 36 years. I don't need people telling me how to behave of an evening. I like a beer and a bit of rhythmic music. I've been known to use naughty words.

                                  The Puritans can suck my dick.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 18:55 last edited by
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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Voice of America:

                                  You know, I go to work every day, just as I have for the last 36 years. I don't need people telling me how to behave of an evening. I like a beer and a bit of rhythmic music. I've been known to use naughty words.

                                  The Puritans can suck my dick.

                                  First, they'd have to find it. 🫣

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    xenon
                                    wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 19:17 last edited by
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                                    I think having a clear set of ideals - at a personal, family, community, country level - is desirable.

                                    It’s really hard to come up with them yourself, and even if you do it’s hard to get others to agree to them.

                                    I don’t like Trump because he’s tearing down norms left, right and center. They can’t be rebuilt. I don’t see much of an upside to this from him that we wouldn’t have gotten from a vanilla republican.

                                    Living up to values is a separate topic from having them. You could say that politicians are phony… but I see a phony politician with high ideals as better than a genuine bastard.

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                                      19 Mar 2025, 19:17

                                      I think having a clear set of ideals - at a personal, family, community, country level - is desirable.

                                      It’s really hard to come up with them yourself, and even if you do it’s hard to get others to agree to them.

                                      I don’t like Trump because he’s tearing down norms left, right and center. They can’t be rebuilt. I don’t see much of an upside to this from him that we wouldn’t have gotten from a vanilla republican.

                                      Living up to values is a separate topic from having them. You could say that politicians are phony… but I see a phony politician with high ideals as better than a genuine bastard.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 19:20 last edited by
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                                      @xenon said in Voice of America:

                                      I think having a clear set of ideals - at a personal, family, community, country level - is desirable.

                                      It’s really hard to come up with them yourself, and even if you do it’s hard to get others to agree to them.

                                      I don’t like Trump because he’s tearing down norms left, right and center. They can’t be rebuilt. I don’t see much of an upside to this from him that we wouldn’t have gotten from a vanilla republican.

                                      Living up to values is a separate topic from having them. You could say that politicians are phony… but I see a phony politician with high ideals as better than a genuine bastard.

                                      A small truth for you...An unelected politician has very, very little actual power.

                                      Name me a GOP politician you think could have effectively challenged Trump?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        xenon
                                        wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 19:26 last edited by
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                                        No one. He clearly won. I think that’s lamentable - more so because of what it says about us.

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 19:44 last edited by Horace
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                                          It says very little about us that it would have said if the price of eggs had been a few dollars cheaper. We are talking about 1 in 100 people shifting their vote from Biden 2020 to Trump 2024. What does it say about us? Are we letting those 1 in 100 people, who are probably not particularly politically engaged anyway, speak for us? I think people can get way too in their own heads and hearts about how important their feelings are about politics and the world order. A different politician is not more than a few dollars in the price of eggs away, in four years. Then we can continue worrying about how devastating the wake of Trump continues to be, all those norms that can never be reconstructed, while the less politically engaged people notice nothing in their lives that is different with or without these norms.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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