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Khalil gets his own thread

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
    #9

    FIRE’s take.

    https://www.thefire.org/news/trump-administrations-reasons-detaining-mahmoud-khalil-threaten-free-speech

    tl;dr:

    If constitutionally protected speech may render someone deportable by the secretary of state, the administration has free rein to arrest and detain any non-citizen whose speech the government dislikes. The inherent vagueness of the “adversarial to the foreign policy and national security interests” standard does not provide notice as to what speech is or is not prohibited.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
      wrote on last edited by
      #10

      It's not worth the kerfuffle to try to get rid of him, but obviously I can think of better things to worry about than non-citizen residents FAFOing with anti-government protests.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
        #11

        Yeah. Seems like they’d be better off deporting actual law breakers and not make any new 1A martyrs.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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          wrote on last edited by
          #12

          So, technically - if someone was pro hamas on this forum (as a green card holder), they’d be about as guilty as this guy?

          Is there more to it? Did he break other laws? I haven’t really followed this.

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #13

            They’re not accusing him of breaking any laws.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #14

              Read the FIRE piece I linked

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                #15

                Adios, Khalil.

                https://www.npr.org/2025/04/11/nx-s1-5361208/mahmoud-khalil-deported-judge-rubio-antisemitism-immigration-court

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #16

                  I have thought of a compromise...We'll let him stay in the country, but he's under house arrest for 60 months, confined to a 15 mile circle around Jena.

                  Pineywoods rednecks, oilfield workers, loggers and farmers.

                  He'll fit right in. 😁

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #17

                    He ain’t going anywhere anytime soon. He’ll have some appeals.

                    The judge is right in that as the law is written it’s fine. The real question is the constitutionality of the law itself.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #18

                      They can appeal to the Board of Immigration. They can also file for asylum.

                      The second is a nonstarter. Don't know about the first.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #19

                        You can appeal the law itself.

                        A lower court once found it unconstitutional but since it was a lower court it didn’t set precedent. Judge was Trump’s sister.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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