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It gets personal

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    Horace
    wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 18:12 last edited by Horace
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    That's 247 American jobs and 2000 jobs in other countries.

    https://thedailyrecord.com/2025/03/13/johns-hopkins-university-to-cut-2200-jobs-amid-lost-federal-funding/

    Education is extremely important.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 18:25 last edited by
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      I can feel America getting greater already.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        Mik
        wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 18:39 last edited by Mik
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        I thought the blanket J6 pardon smacked of laziness. Seems that is a trend. I approve of the goals but not the means.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Renauda
          wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 18:43 last edited by
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          Sorry to learn of this jon. It seems so wasteful given the practical medical benefit that would have resulted. But as Blondie pointed out you and your team are smart, you’ll find a way.

          Elbows up!

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            Jolly
            wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 18:50 last edited by
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            There will be blood.

            I've already given the roasted chicken example. I think that's what will be done.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              15 Mar 2025, 18:39

              I thought the blanket J6 pardon smacked of laziness. Seems that is a trend. I approve of the goals but not the means.

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              Horace
              wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 19:08 last edited by
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              @Mik said in It gets personal:

              I thought the blanket J6 pardon smacked of laziness. Seems that is a trend. I approve of the goals but not the means.

              I don't think it's clear what those 2000 citizens of other countries were being paid to do, by the US taxpayers. This may or may not be a tragedy. But per se, it's what Maga was voted in to do.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Mik
                wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 19:31 last edited by
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                That’s one example only and related to USAID. How many offshore employees did Jon’s study employ?

                I think my point on laziness stands.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  15 Mar 2025, 19:31

                  That’s one example only and related to USAID. How many offshore employees did Jon’s study employ?

                  I think my point on laziness stands.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 19:42 last edited by
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                  @Mik said in It gets personal:

                  That’s one example only and related to USAID. How many offshore employees did Jon’s study employ?

                  I think my point on laziness stands.

                  I'm lost regarding what we're actually talking about, but 83% of USAID programs were cut, after a 6 week review. We don't have any information about the Johns Hopkins programs that were cut, but I am sure it's safe to say that "people will die" narratives can be crafted. Cuts are hard, as those of us in the private sector who've been surrounded by layoffs our entire working lives will attest to. But I'm not going to get too precious about it.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    kluurs
                    wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 19:51 last edited by
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                    We're feeling it as well. My spouse's grant has been slated for termination. She's appealing and looking at alternative funding. It is challenging to think what the environment is going to be in a couple of months - let alone, years. She's done research on nerve regeneration involved in urologic conditions.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 19:52 last edited by
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                      There’s no way to cut painlessly, I agree. I also believe there are taxpayer supported studies that are not worth the expense. But many if not most are. To cut them off in mid study while still proposing deficit spending seems less than due diligence.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 19:56 last edited by
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                        I agree that cutting studies off in the middle is stupid and lazy.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          xenon
                          wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 19:58 last edited by
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                          If there were painful cuts across the board and belt tightening, that’d be one thing.

                          These seem like theatrical cuts, since the new budget will add a record amount to the deficit.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 20:07 last edited by
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                            I'm still waiting for an actual budget.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              15 Mar 2025, 19:58

                              If there were painful cuts across the board and belt tightening, that’d be one thing.

                              These seem like theatrical cuts, since the new budget will add a record amount to the deficit.

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 21:10 last edited by Copper
                              #38

                              @xenon said in It gets personal:

                              the new budget will add a record amount to the deficit

                              Does the new budget exist?

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 22:41 last edited by
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                                A budget resolution was passed, which outlines the increases or cuts expected from each committee of jurisdiction. So while we don't know precisely what the cuts are, we know generally.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 20:16 last edited by
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                                  These are ‘preconditions’ set by the administration that are supposed to be met before they will sit down with Columbia.

                                  https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/6d3c124d8e20212d/85dec154-full.pdf

                                  One wonders what the negotiations would then be about.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 20:20 last edited by
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                                    FIRE’s take.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      16 Mar 2025, 20:16

                                      These are ‘preconditions’ set by the administration that are supposed to be met before they will sit down with Columbia.

                                      https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/6d3c124d8e20212d/85dec154-full.pdf

                                      One wonders what the negotiations would then be about.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 20:39 last edited by
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                                      @jon-nyc said in It gets personal:

                                      These are ‘preconditions’ set by the administration that are supposed to be met before they will sit down with Columbia.

                                      https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/6d3c124d8e20212d/85dec154-full.pdf

                                      One wonders what the negotiations would then be about.

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                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        blondie
                                        wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 22:43 last edited by
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                                        @kluurs Both of us here are thinking of the 2 of you there, hoping your wife’s research can continue. I can’t imagine having my life long passion, my area of expertise, being axed, after decades of contributing such good for medical research.

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                                          16 Mar 2025, 20:16

                                          These are ‘preconditions’ set by the administration that are supposed to be met before they will sit down with Columbia.

                                          https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/6d3c124d8e20212d/85dec154-full.pdf

                                          One wonders what the negotiations would then be about.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 22:55 last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in It gets personal:

                                          These are ‘preconditions’ set by the administration that are supposed to be met before they will sit down with Columbia.

                                          https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/6d3c124d8e20212d/85dec154-full.pdf

                                          One wonders what the negotiations would then be about.

                                          I don't have too many problems with the preconditions. I'm not sure about the receivership, as that goes too far.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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