DOJ friend resigns
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@NobodySock said in DOJ friend resigns:
@LuFins-Dad said in DOJ friend resigns:
I’d just like to point out that with 10 years of military service and 13 years of Federal, he’s entitled to a full retirement at 50. So with another 6 months of paid time off, and easy private sector opportunities, it’s a pretty easy decision, one that wouldn’t be available generally in the private sector.
Being that he is only 44, his minimum retirement age for eligibility for immediate retirement is age 57 with at least 30 years service. Age 60 with 20 years, or age 62 with 5 years service. He is pretty far away from 57. There is no retirement at 50. He also has to pay a military deposit to have his military time added to his federal service count. Sorry to hear his decision 89th. How did he get hurt in the military?
Didn’t know his age until @89th posted it, but you can take VERA at 50 with 20 years service (including military). You can also get early retirement with 25 years total service even under 50. A good friend took VERA from WH Comms in 2017. He was 47 at the time. Had another friend take VERA at 52. Both took lucrative jobs after…
wrote on 28 Feb 2025, 03:40 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in DOJ friend resigns:
@NobodySock said in DOJ friend resigns:
@LuFins-Dad said in DOJ friend resigns:
I’d just like to point out that with 10 years of military service and 13 years of Federal, he’s entitled to a full retirement at 50. So with another 6 months of paid time off, and easy private sector opportunities, it’s a pretty easy decision, one that wouldn’t be available generally in the private sector.
Being that he is only 44, his minimum retirement age for eligibility for immediate retirement is age 57 with at least 30 years service. Age 60 with 20 years, or age 62 with 5 years service. He is pretty far away from 57. There is no retirement at 50. He also has to pay a military deposit to have his military time added to his federal service count. Sorry to hear his decision 89th. How did he get hurt in the military?
Didn’t know his age until @89th posted it, but you can take VERA at 50 with 20 years service (including military). You can also get early retirement with 25 years total service even under 50. A good friend took VERA from WH Comms in 2017. He was 47 at the time. Had another friend take VERA at 52. Both took lucrative jobs after…
When VERA is available. Not always the case.
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Imagine taking the principle seriously, and believing that the IRS is populated by people with higher than average motivation to help their fellow man. I think the IRS is populated by people with accounting degrees, who wanted a stable job.
wrote on 28 Feb 2025, 04:26 last edited by 89th@Horace said in DOJ friend resigns:
Imagine taking the principle seriously, and believing that the IRS is populated by people with higher than average motivation to help their fellow man. I think the IRS is populated by people with accounting degrees, who wanted a stable job.
Someone needs to take your extrapolation gun away.
I’m talking about my friend who served his country in the military and wanted to continue serving (volunteering at NIH for veterans with PTSD and at the Dept of Justice). For him to retire is substantial, knowing him. That’s all.
The IRS accountant is not the same as the veterans working at the VA is not the same as the National Parks person protecting an endangered species of mushroom.
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wrote on 28 Feb 2025, 04:35 last edited by
Not sure why he’d want to resign anyway. Look at these fun times!
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wrote on 28 Feb 2025, 04:37 last edited by
Exciting times!
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@Horace said in DOJ friend resigns:
Imagine taking the principle seriously, and believing that the IRS is populated by people with higher than average motivation to help their fellow man. I think the IRS is populated by people with accounting degrees, who wanted a stable job.
Someone needs to take your extrapolation gun away.
I’m talking about my friend who served his country in the military and wanted to continue serving (volunteering at NIH for veterans with PTSD and at the Dept of Justice). For him to retire is substantial, knowing him. That’s all.
The IRS accountant is not the same as the veterans working at the VA is not the same as the National Parks person protecting an endangered species of mushroom.
wrote on 28 Feb 2025, 04:51 last edited by@89th said in DOJ friend resigns:
@Horace said in DOJ friend resigns:
Imagine taking the principle seriously, and believing that the IRS is populated by people with higher than average motivation to help their fellow man. I think the IRS is populated by people with accounting degrees, who wanted a stable job.
Someone needs to take your extrapolation gun away.
I’m talking about my friend who served his country in the military and wanted to continue serving (volunteering at NIH for veterans with PTSD and at the Dept of Justice). For him to retire is substantial, knowing him. That’s all.
The IRS accountant is not the same as the veterans working at the VA is not the same as the National Parks person protecting an endangered species of mushroom.
Please let me stipulate that your friend is exactly as awesome as you say he is. I am sure there are plenty of awesome people who work in the government. I don't think you'd find a statistical correlation between "awesome" and "government workers", as you consistently imply.
As for your friend's anecdote and your contention that it proves how terrible things are for your average government worker, no. I think there are specifics about your friend's situation that muddy those waters substantially. Not least his personal feelings for Trump, and his job duties that required him to give voice to things he felt violated his principles or beliefs. That is what I've inferred from what we've learned in this thread, and it is not how he framed his reasons in his resignation letter. I don't actually believe that the atmosphere in general in those government buildings is suffocatingly oppressive to the extent people are fleeing from jobs they otherwise love. He did not love his job of speaking for this administration, obviously. That's just a disingenuous framing.
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It's literally vaguely insulting for government employees to feel like they're serving a higher purpose than private sector employees, just based on the principle of working for the government. One can be proud of what they do, or who they work for, but to feel like a government job occupies a higher rung of service to humanity, is actually a little insulting. So, I don't actually feel too bad about pushing back on this. it's not only a flimsy narrative, it's also a little insulting.
wrote on 28 Feb 2025, 11:17 last edited by@Horace said in DOJ friend resigns:
it's also a little insulting.
Is it more or less insulting than Canadians not wanting to become American citizens?
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wrote on 28 Feb 2025, 13:02 last edited by
@89th said in DOJ friend resigns:
https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/breaking-donald-trump-named-epstein-34766895
ZOMG! Trump flew in the plane twice! With his wife and 7 month old daughter with him! What a sicko! I mean, taking his wife and daughter along on those evil trips?! Debauchery!
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@89th said in DOJ friend resigns:
https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/breaking-donald-trump-named-epstein-34766895
ZOMG! Trump flew in the plane twice! With his wife and 7 month old daughter with him! What a sicko! I mean, taking his wife and daughter along on those evil trips?! Debauchery!
wrote on 28 Feb 2025, 14:00 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in DOJ friend resigns:
ZOMG! Trump flew in the plane twice! With his wife and 7 month old daughter with him! What a sicko! I mean, taking his wife and daughter along on those evil trips?! Debauchery!
Right, so if Trump's visit was completely innocent, lots of other people's would be, too. But that's not going to stop The Goodly and Righteous People of the Interwebz from hurling shit at all of them. Or at the very least the ones who don't share their particular political belief system.
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@LuFins-Dad said in DOJ friend resigns:
ZOMG! Trump flew in the plane twice! With his wife and 7 month old daughter with him! What a sicko! I mean, taking his wife and daughter along on those evil trips?! Debauchery!
Right, so if Trump's visit was completely innocent, lots of other people's would be, too. But that's not going to stop The Goodly and Righteous People of the Interwebz from hurling shit at all of them. Or at the very least the ones who don't share their particular political belief system.
wrote on 28 Feb 2025, 14:05 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in DOJ friend resigns:
@LuFins-Dad said in DOJ friend resigns:
ZOMG! Trump flew in the plane twice! With his wife and 7 month old daughter with him! What a sicko! I mean, taking his wife and daughter along on those evil trips?! Debauchery!
Right, so if Trump's visit was completely innocent, lots of other people's would be, too. But that's not going to stop The Goodly and Righteous People of the Interwebz from hurling shit at all of them. Or at the very least the ones who don't share their particular political belief system.
Gee, you lurched into the truth?
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@Doctor-Phibes said in DOJ friend resigns:
@LuFins-Dad said in DOJ friend resigns:
ZOMG! Trump flew in the plane twice! With his wife and 7 month old daughter with him! What a sicko! I mean, taking his wife and daughter along on those evil trips?! Debauchery!
Right, so if Trump's visit was completely innocent, lots of other people's would be, too. But that's not going to stop The Goodly and Righteous People of the Interwebz from hurling shit at all of them. Or at the very least the ones who don't share their particular political belief system.
Gee, you lurched into the truth?
wrote on 28 Feb 2025, 14:16 last edited by Doctor Phibes@Jolly said in DOJ friend resigns:
@Doctor-Phibes said in DOJ friend resigns:
@LuFins-Dad said in DOJ friend resigns:
ZOMG! Trump flew in the plane twice! With his wife and 7 month old daughter with him! What a sicko! I mean, taking his wife and daughter along on those evil trips?! Debauchery!
Right, so if Trump's visit was completely innocent, lots of other people's would be, too. But that's not going to stop The Goodly and Righteous People of the Interwebz from hurling shit at all of them. Or at the very least the ones who don't share their particular political belief system.
Gee, you lurched into the truth?
Every time you accuse me of bias, somebody dies laughing.