Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake
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There are numerous states where writing a letter of objection is sufficient to get you out of the vax mandate. Hell, Florida might have been one already. But it seems that would have sufficed for any liberty concerns while keeping herd immunity relatively intact.
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Florida Man is making the "if they don't want to wear a helmet or seatbelt, they shouldn't be forced to" argument, which I can understand (but don't agree with in this case). The whooping cough vaccine, for example, doesn't have an impact on transmission of the sickness to others, but it does substantially reduce the severity if someone is exposed to the virus. Anyway, Florida Man is so focused on that "freedom/right" he doesn't realize how foolish and myopic his argument is.
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Who skip childhood vaccination?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/09/15/childhood-vaccines-parents-post-kff-poll/
The American parents who are choosing to skip or delay vaccines for their children are more likely to home-school their children, be White and very religious, identify as Republican or be under 35, ...
The CDC says 92.5 percent of kindergartners received their MMR vaccines last school year. But those rates are lower in parts of the country, ...
... but you need 95%+ vaccination rate for herd immunity for MMR to be effective.
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Think of how different that would have been 10 years ago.
4 years ago I was met with contempt here for merely asking the question whether MAGA’s anti-covid vax stance would generalize into Marin-county granola-chick style antivaxx sentiment.
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Think of how different that would have been 10 years ago.
4 years ago I was met with contempt here for merely asking the question whether MAGA’s anti-covid vax stance would generalize into Marin-county granola-chick style antivaxx sentiment.
@jon-nyc said in Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake:
Think of how different that would have been 10 years ago.
4 years ago I was met with contempt here for merely asking the question whether MAGA’s anti-covid vax stance would generalize into Marin-county granola-chick style antivaxx sentiment.
It's doubly heart breaking when a champion of mutual respect like you gets treated with contempt. This forum can be sick.
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It wasn’t me so much as the question.
It was as if I asked “do you think vaccine aversion among MAGA will lead to more incest and cousin marriage?”
The mere implication was almost too insulting to dignify, even with a negative response.
And now look at them.
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Only LD took it seriously. Jolly whattabouted me and you interrogated my motives or my psychology for the temerity of asking the question before trying to get me to turn the question into a declarative statement. Presumably so you could compliment me on my insights.
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Only LD took it seriously. Jolly whattabouted me and you interrogated my motives or my psychology for the temerity of asking the question before trying to get me to turn the question into a declarative statement. Presumably so you could compliment me on my insights.
@jon-nyc said in Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake:
Only LD took it seriously. Jolly whattabouted me and you interrogated my motives or my psychology for the temerity of asking the question.
Simply not true. I attempted to remove the contempt from your question and asked you to give your thoughts on the good faith version, a version which you allowed was pretty accurate. The contempt in the discussion came from you, as is generally the case.
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There was no contempt in my question. I even said ‘Trumpist’ instead of ‘Magat’.
I get you took issue with ‘Trumpist’ but the question was specifically about the Trump supporting subset of the vaccine hesitant so I needed a qualifier.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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There was no contempt in my question. I even said ‘Trumpist’ instead of ‘Magat’.
I get you took issue with ‘Trumpist’ but the question was specifically about the Trump supporting subset of the vaccine hesitant so I needed a qualifier.
@jon-nyc said in Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake:
There was no contempt in my question. I even said ‘Trumpist’ instead of ‘Magat’.
I get you took issue with ‘Trumpist’ but the question was specifically about the Trump supporting subset of the vaccine hesitant so I needed a qualifier.
You were always cagey about whatever you meant by “Trumpist”, and it did not mean just anybody who voted for him. It was an expression of contempt for you, probably close in meaning to “cultist”. I’m not sure Magat was part of the lexicon at the time.
In any case, your memory of the question being treated with contempt, is a false one. I cared so much for the question that I attempted to salvage the anodyne ideas from it, for discussion.
Education is extremely important.
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I plainly took the question and reframed it in well understood terms, without your opaque pejoratives confusing the issue, I admitted not knowing the answer, and asked for your thoughts about it. Now over the years your persecution complex has turned the exchange into one where your honest attempts at discussion were treated with contempt. Yes your psychology will forever be a valid subject for discussion here as you continue to wallpaper the forum with your hatred and contempt, year after year.
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There was no contempt in my question. I even said ‘Trumpist’ instead of ‘Magat’.
I get you took issue with ‘Trumpist’ but the question was specifically about the Trump supporting subset of the vaccine hesitant so I needed a qualifier.
@jon-nyc said in Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake:
There was no contempt in my question. I even said ‘Trumpist’ instead of ‘Magat’.
I get you took issue with ‘Trumpist’ but the question was specifically about the Trump supporting subset of the vaccine hesitant so I needed a qualifier.
I personally prefer the term Trumpeter since it involves a loud noise as well as extended periods of blowing.
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@jon-nyc said in Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake:
There was no contempt in my question. I even said ‘Trumpist’ instead of ‘Magat’.
I get you took issue with ‘Trumpist’ but the question was specifically about the Trump supporting subset of the vaccine hesitant so I needed a qualifier.
You were always cagey about whatever you meant by “Trumpist”, and it did not mean just anybody who voted for him. It was an expression of contempt for you, probably close in meaning to “cultist”. I’m not sure Magat was part of the lexicon at the time.
In any case, your memory of the question being treated with contempt, is a false one. I cared so much for the question that I attempted to salvage the anodyne ideas from it, for discussion.
