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RIP Gene Hackman

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    Klaus
    wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 15:20 last edited by
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    But why did the dog have to die, too?

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 18:30 last edited by
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      The actor Gene Hackman was found dead in a mud room in his New Mexico home and his wife, Betsy Arakawa, was found dead on the floor of a bathroom on Wednesday, according to a search warrant affidavit. An open prescription bottle and scattered pills were discovered on a counter in the bathroom.

      A dead German shepherd was found between 10 and 15 feet away from Ms. Arakawa in a closet of the bathroom, the affidavit said. There were no obvious signs of a gas leak in the home, it said, and the Fire Department did not find signs of a carbon monoxide leak.

      Detective Roy Arndt wrote in the affidavit that sheriff’s deputies reported to the home on Wednesday afternoon after a maintenance worker made an emergency call. One of the deputies found Ms. Arakawa lying on her side on the bathroom floor with a space heater near her head, the affidavit said. The deputy who found her said he suspected that the heater could have fallen with Ms. Arakawa, the filing said.

      Ms. Arakawa’s body showed signs of decomposition, the affidavit said. Two other dogs were found alive on the property.
      The deputies found Ms. Arakawa first and then discovered Mr. Hackman lying in the mud room, with his body in a similar condition to his wife’s, the affidavit said.

      Sheriff Adan Mendoza of Santa Fe County said in a phone interview that investigators were still trying to determine what caused their deaths, noting that there were no obvious signs of trauma to the bodies and that no note had been found. The sheriff said the home was continuing to be searched on Thursday.

      “At this stage in the process there isn’t anything obvious like that,” he said. “The autopsy is going to tell us more“

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        89th
        wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 18:45 last edited by
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        Interesting...

        I recall seeing a photo of Hackman recently and he looked so much older and frailer than what I remember from the movies (obviously). If they were in separate parts of the home, I wonder if any form of gas leak could cause their deaths. Presumably at the minimum one person would find another person passed out first and call 911.

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          Mik
          wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 19:20 last edited by Mik
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          An open prescription bottle of WHAT exactly? And no one kills themself in the mud room.

          It would be tough to get a dog to swallow enough pills to kill it, and why not the other two dogs? CO is the only thing that makes any sense.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 19:35 last edited by
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            I saw somewhere they are not yet ruling out foul play.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              Horace
              wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 19:40 last edited by
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              Sure is fishy.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Copper
                wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 19:40 last edited by
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                Link to video

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                  27 Feb 2025, 19:20

                  An open prescription bottle of WHAT exactly? And no one kills themself in the mud room.

                  It would be tough to get a dog to swallow enough pills to kill it, and why not the other two dogs? CO is the only thing that makes any sense.

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 19:43 last edited by
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                  @Mik said in RIP Gene Hackman:

                  An open prescription bottle of WHAT exactly? And no one kills themself in the mud room.

                  It would be tough to get a dog to swallow enough pills to kill it, and why not the other two dogs? CO is the only thing that makes any sense.

                  He could have died naturally, and then she took her own life with the pills. Not sure how to explain the dog.

                  I was only joking

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 20:50 last edited by
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                    He’s the dog that didn’t bark.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 23:14 last edited by
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                      It sounds like she died first? They mentioned decomposition with her but not him.

                      The Brad

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 23:19 last edited by
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                        She was only 65… Concert pianist. The door was open, so any gas would have dissipated.

                        The Brad

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                          kluurs
                          wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 23:59 last edited by
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                          I read that the dog was in a closet.

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                            27 Feb 2025, 23:59

                            I read that the dog was in a closet.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 28 Feb 2025, 00:04 last edited by
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                            @kluurs said in RIP Gene Hackman:

                            I read that the dog was in a closet.

                            Yeah, that’s really odd

                            The Brad

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on 28 Feb 2025, 01:45 last edited by
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                              Double suicide maybe? Maybe one had terminal health issue?

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                                27 Feb 2025, 19:43

                                @Mik said in RIP Gene Hackman:

                                An open prescription bottle of WHAT exactly? And no one kills themself in the mud room.

                                It would be tough to get a dog to swallow enough pills to kill it, and why not the other two dogs? CO is the only thing that makes any sense.

                                He could have died naturally, and then she took her own life with the pills. Not sure how to explain the dog.

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                                89th
                                wrote on 28 Feb 2025, 02:28 last edited by
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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in RIP Gene Hackman:

                                @Mik said in RIP Gene Hackman:

                                An open prescription bottle of WHAT exactly? And no one kills themself in the mud room.

                                It would be tough to get a dog to swallow enough pills to kill it, and why not the other two dogs? CO is the only thing that makes any sense.

                                He could have died naturally, and then she took her own life with the pills. Not sure how to explain the dog.

                                Had the same thought. Maybe heart attack by Gene, suicide by his wife, and forgot about one of their 3 dogs who unfortunately starved to death. But who knows… maybe he found her, then went downstairs and fell out of panic and…

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                                  27 Feb 2025, 19:43

                                  @Mik said in RIP Gene Hackman:

                                  An open prescription bottle of WHAT exactly? And no one kills themself in the mud room.

                                  It would be tough to get a dog to swallow enough pills to kill it, and why not the other two dogs? CO is the only thing that makes any sense.

                                  He could have died naturally, and then she took her own life with the pills. Not sure how to explain the dog.

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 28 Feb 2025, 02:29 last edited by
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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in RIP Gene Hackman:

                                  @Mik said in RIP Gene Hackman:

                                  An open prescription bottle of WHAT exactly? And no one kills themself in the mud room.

                                  It would be tough to get a dog to swallow enough pills to kill it, and why not the other two dogs? CO is the only thing that makes any sense.

                                  He could have died naturally, and then she took her own life with the pills. Not sure how to explain the dog.

                                  Had the same thought. Maybe heart attack by Gene, suicide by his wife, and forgot about one of their 3 dogs who unfortunately starved to death. But who knows… maybe he found her, then went downstairs and fell out of panic and…

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 28 Feb 2025, 19:09 last edited by
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                                    Dead for “days or possibly weeks”

                                    The wife showed “mummification in both hands and feet”

                                    Dead dog was “in a closet in the bathroom”.

                                    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/28/us/gene-hackman-death-updates.html

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 1 Mar 2025, 16:40 last edited by jon-nyc 3 Jan 2025, 16:41
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                                      Pacemaker data indicates he died 9 days before they found him.

                                      CO poisoning ruled out.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 22:11 last edited by jon-nyc about 12 hours from now
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                                        Now they’re saying she died first from hantavirus, which you catch from rodent excrement, which causes respiratory failure. She died around A WEEK before he did.

                                        He had Alzheimer’s which might explain why he didn’t report his wife’s condition or perhaps even notice she was dead. He died from heart disease.

                                        Now I read the dead dog was crated. They don’t say explicitly but starvation/thirst would be the logical explanation. Must have sucked to be that dog for its last days.

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 22:25 last edited by
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                                          That makes more sense. Early reports mentioned that she had decomposed, but nothing about him, indicating that she had died first.

                                          Poor dog.

                                          The Brad

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