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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote last edited by Renauda
    #861

    Trump is now trying to extricate himself from this impending debacle through his preferred tool of persuasion, that is to say, extortion. G W Bush at least brought a fig leaf of legitimacy to his war on Iraq through the UNSC and building the so called “Coalition of the Willing” or as Shantinik described it at the time, The Coalition of the Small and Obscure. This moron in the WH instead is relying on extortionist rhetoric to cobble together a “coalition of the coerced” now that he realises he has embarked on a bloody folly and finds himself way in over his empty head.

    https://archive.is/l19aG

    The money quote:

    “We have a thing called Nato,” said Trump, who has often criticised the alliance. “We’ve been very sweet. We didn’t have to help them with Ukraine. Ukraine is thousands of miles away from us . . . But we helped them. Now we’ll see if they help us. Because I’ve long said that we’ll be there for them but they won’t be there for us. And I’m not sure that they’d be there.”

    Let’s just all go bang our heads against the wall.

    Elbows up!

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    • MikM Offline
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      wrote last edited by
      #862

      Why would NATO want to get involved with Iran? Ukraine is right on their border. The two situations have no parallels.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        wrote last edited by
        #863

        If individual Nato members see it in their interests to assist the UAE, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Jordan against Iranian missiles, drones and its proxies, that will be entirely at their determination and not under US/Israeli command or directive.

        Elbows up!

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          #864

          Straight of Hormuz??? More like Gay of Hormuz.

          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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          • MikM Offline
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            #865

            The Ayatollah sucks.

            This is all quite delicious. I hope it’s true.

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote last edited by Renauda
              #866

              Putting Trump’s transactional foreign policy actually, extortionist foreign policy, into perspective:

              "Take unilateral actions without including allies, then bully them into supporting that action," — this is how Trump's approach was described by Daniel Hamilton, a foreign policy expert at the Brookings Institution.

              Adding to the irony, Trump has dismissed the one partner who rushed to offer assistance with shoring up drone defenses against Iranian attacks — Ukraine.

              ….”The last person we need help from is Zelensky," he said separately, instead accusing the Ukrainian leader of stalling peace talks with Russia, adding that Russian President Vladimir Putin is "willing to make a deal."

              Moscow, which has repeatedly rejected a ceasefire in Ukraine and continues to push its territorial demands, promptly supported Trump's criticism of Zelensky.

              https://kyivindependent.com/trump-demands-aid-from-partners-snubs-the-one-offering-it/

              Elbows up!

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