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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #909

    I’m reminded of when he said in his first term, “Nobody knew how hard health care reform would be”.

    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      President Trump yesterday:

      They weren't supposed to go after all these other countries in the Middle East. Those missiles were sent to go after them. They hit Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait,

      Nobody expected that. We were shocked. You know, they fought back.

      He also said something like, "Iran did not have to fight back. They could have yielded."

      #faceslap

      He must have very incompetent advisors, or he does not listen to them. Probably the last, as I dont think that anybody would have said that Iran would not fight back.

      Also, agree with @bachophile that the US had to know that Israel was going to do the bombing they did. 100% Looks like he is starting to throw Isreal "under the bus:

      RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
      wrote last edited by Renauda
      #910

      @taiwan_girl

      Also, agree with @bachophile that the US had to know that Israel was going to do the bombing they did. 100% Looks like he is starting to throw Isreal "under the bus:

      Count me in as well, in fact it is inconceivable that under the current circumstances, the Israelis would not have coordinated this particular mission with US CENCOM.

      Playing the victim and blaming others when things don’t go the way he wishes, however is His Exalted Ineptitude’s, Trump, M.O. and leadership style. As time goes on it rings more and more hollow.

      What was once described as brilliant 4D chess in matters of foreign policy, can now only be lampooned as a children’s game of snakes and ladders with unacceptably high stakes.

      Elbows up!

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
        wrote last edited by
        #911

        Troops to secure the strait?

        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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        • 89th8 Offline
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          89th
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          #912

          I feel bad for their parents.

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
            jon-nycJ Offline
            jon-nyc
            wrote last edited by
            #913

            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Troops to secure the strait?

              taiwan_girlT Offline
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              taiwan_girl
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              #914

              @jon-nyc said:

              Troops to secure the strait?

              In addition to the troops from San Diego, I believe that they are also sending some Marine troops from Okinawa base in Japan.

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                @taiwan_girl

                Also, agree with @bachophile that the US had to know that Israel was going to do the bombing they did. 100% Looks like he is starting to throw Isreal "under the bus:

                Count me in as well, in fact it is inconceivable that under the current circumstances, the Israelis would not have coordinated this particular mission with US CENCOM.

                Playing the victim and blaming others when things don’t go the way he wishes, however is His Exalted Ineptitude’s, Trump, M.O. and leadership style. As time goes on it rings more and more hollow.

                What was once described as brilliant 4D chess in matters of foreign policy, can now only be lampooned as a children’s game of snakes and ladders with unacceptably high stakes.

                taiwan_girlT Offline
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                @Renauda said:

                Count me in as well, in fact it is inconceivable that under the current circumstances, the Israelis would not have coordinated this particular mission with US CENCOM.

                I believe that either PM or Foreign Minister of Isreal at first said that Isreal definitely let the US know what they were doing.

                Later, the stepped back on that statement. I wonder if there were some pressure from the US to change their statement. 🤔

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote last edited by Renauda
                  #916

                  @taiwan_girl

                  Ya think?

                  555

                  Actually, as much as I dislike Netanyahu, he is the only coherent belligerent in this war. The logic he uses behind Isreal’s engagement and objectives are clearly articulated regardless of whether or not one agrees with him. The same cannot at all be said for his American ally no matter who is behind the mic, the X post or Truth Social tantrum.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • kluursK Offline
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                    There's reasonable speculation that Israel knew of 9/11 prior to the event and kept silent as it would likely work out in Israel's favor. It isn't out of bounds to think that they might not have shared their plans in the current situation.

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                    • AxtremusA Offline
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                      #918

                      Now it's The Crusade!

                      https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/us/politics/hegseth-christianity-military.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UlA.cliC.iP-qaWLA9BHi

                      Hegseth Invokes Divine Purpose to Justify Military Might
                      Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has imbued U.S. military actions with a Christian moral underpinning that suggests they are divinely sanctioned.

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                      • RenaudaR Offline
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                        Renauda
                        wrote last edited by Renauda
                        #919

                        @kluurs

                        There's reasonable speculation that Israel knew of 9/11 prior to the event and kept silent as it would likely work out in Israel's favor.

                        Am sure there’s speculation about it and a lot of other known unknowns. Whether any can be classified as reasonable however remains an unknown unknown.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          Now it's The Crusade!

                          https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/us/politics/hegseth-christianity-military.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UlA.cliC.iP-qaWLA9BHi

                          Hegseth Invokes Divine Purpose to Justify Military Might
                          Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has imbued U.S. military actions with a Christian moral underpinning that suggests they are divinely sanctioned.

                          MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
                          wrote last edited by
                          #920

                          @Axtremus said:

                          Now it's The Crusade!

                          https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/us/politics/hegseth-christianity-military.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UlA.cliC.iP-qaWLA9BHi

                          Hegseth Invokes Divine Purpose to Justify Military Might
                          Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has imbued U.S. military actions with a Christian moral underpinning that suggests they are divinely sanctioned.

                          I suppose it's justifiable if you see the world through a religious lens.

                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                          • MikM Mik

                            @Axtremus said:

                            Now it's The Crusade!

                            https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/us/politics/hegseth-christianity-military.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UlA.cliC.iP-qaWLA9BHi

                            Hegseth Invokes Divine Purpose to Justify Military Might
                            Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has imbued U.S. military actions with a Christian moral underpinning that suggests they are divinely sanctioned.

                            I suppose it's justifiable if you see the world through a religious lens.

                            kluursK Offline
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                            kluurs
                            wrote last edited by kluurs
                            #921

                            @Mik said:

                            @Axtremus said:

                            Now it's The Crusade!

                            https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/us/politics/hegseth-christianity-military.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UlA.cliC.iP-qaWLA9BHi

                            Hegseth Invokes Divine Purpose to Justify Military Might
                            Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has imbued U.S. military actions with a Christian moral underpinning that suggests they are divinely sanctioned.

                            I suppose it's justifiable if you see the world through a religious lens.

                            What a great idea. Let's unite the Muslim world against the infidels. Almost as good as alienating one's allies.

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                            • jon-nycJ Offline
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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                              #922

                              Taking Kharg? Or winding down?

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                              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote last edited by
                                #923

                                This could explain the above. The market is pricing in 5.2% inflation for the next 12 months. In 3 weeks, it's gone from pricing in a rate cut to pricing in a rate increase.

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                                The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  @Axtremus said:

                                  Now it's The Crusade!

                                  https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/us/politics/hegseth-christianity-military.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UlA.cliC.iP-qaWLA9BHi

                                  Hegseth Invokes Divine Purpose to Justify Military Might
                                  Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has imbued U.S. military actions with a Christian moral underpinning that suggests they are divinely sanctioned.

                                  I suppose it's justifiable if you see the world through a religious lens.

                                  RenaudaR Offline
                                  RenaudaR Offline
                                  Renauda
                                  wrote last edited by Renauda
                                  #924

                                  @Mik said:

                                  @Axtremus said:

                                  Now it's The Crusade!

                                  https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/us/politics/hegseth-christianity-military.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UlA.cliC.iP-qaWLA9BHi

                                  Hegseth Invokes Divine Purpose to Justify Military Might
                                  Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has imbued U.S. military actions with a Christian moral underpinning that suggests they are divinely sanctioned.

                                  I suppose it's justifiable if you see the world through a religious lens.

                                  A perfectly sound reason then for the rest of NATO to continue to let Trump and Hegseth’s Templars have at it on their own over there.

                                  Not a banner I would ever consider having our troops to fight under.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #925

                                    Sweet.

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                                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Sweet.

                                      IMG_1151.jpeg

                                      kluursK Offline
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                                      kluurs
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                                      #926

                                      @jon-nyc said:

                                      Sweet.

                                      IMG_1151.jpeg

                                      It’s not April 1 yet Premature headline

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                                      • kluursK kluurs

                                        @jon-nyc said:

                                        Sweet.

                                        IMG_1151.jpeg

                                        It’s not April 1 yet Premature headline

                                        RenaudaR Offline
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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #927

                                        @kluurs

                                        Lol

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • kluursK kluurs

                                          @jon-nyc said:

                                          Sweet.

                                          IMG_1151.jpeg

                                          It’s not April 1 yet Premature headline

                                          jon-nycJ Offline
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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #928

                                          @kluurs said:

                                          @jon-nyc said:

                                          Sweet.

                                          It’s not April 1 yet Premature headline

                                          Hater.

                                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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