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    AndyD
    wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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    They'll turn inwards on their own population to prevent any progressive reform in Iran

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      jon-nyc
      wrote 22 days ago last edited by
      #490

      Really good summary, though probably a little hopeful in some aspects. Still worth the read.

      They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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        Mik
        wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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        Yeah, it’s a bit optimistic but still a pretty clear eyed look at where things are.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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          jon-nyc
          wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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          Oh shit, if true.

          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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            Mik
            wrote 22 days ago last edited by Mik
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            If you'll recall, this was exactly my objection to our involvement - possible failure to destroy Fordow.

            Now, it is absolutely true that some powers will try very hard to portray that as true, whether it is or not. Finding the truth might be difficult, but we'll be keeping an eye on the sites.

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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              In all likelihood it’s somewhere in between. What do they mean by months? 3? Or 120?

              The Brad

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                jon-nyc
                wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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                6 said the report.

                While the question of who/what to believe is ever present, before the Defense Intelligence Agency report was leaked congressmen were already publicly complaining that the Administration canceled a planned briefing.

                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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                  I thought they were years away from a bomb, according to Tulsi?

                  The Brad

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                    xenon
                    wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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                    Trump has spent the last couple of hours making multiple posts how the bombs obliterated everything.... which probably means they didn't... sigh...

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                      Mik
                      wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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                      Our problem is no believable source.

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                        AndyD
                        wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                        Iranian government have arrested 700 people to suppress dissent.
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                          22 days ago

                          Our problem is no believable source.

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                          Axtremus
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                          @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                          Our problem is no believable source.

                          Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?

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                            22 days ago

                            Our problem is no believable source.

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                            Tom-K
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                            @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                            Our problem is no believable source.

                            That's the problem, we don't have a clue who's telling the truth. Or even if anyone knows what the truth is. Every news station trots out their retired 3 or 4 star general (I don't even listen to colonels) or atomic energy PhD and no two has the same opinion about anything.

                            I am somewhat partial to Rebecca Grant PhD over at Fox, though. She gets all excited and squeaky when she's talking about Tomahawk missiles being fired off.

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                            Flushing the toilet is like practicing the piano; you just cannot go too long without doing it.--Axtremus

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                              21 days ago

                              @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                              Our problem is no believable source.

                              That's the problem, we don't have a clue who's telling the truth. Or even if anyone knows what the truth is. Every news station trots out their retired 3 or 4 star general (I don't even listen to colonels) or atomic energy PhD and no two has the same opinion about anything.

                              I am somewhat partial to Rebecca Grant PhD over at Fox, though. She gets all excited and squeaky when she's talking about Tomahawk missiles being fired off.

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                              89th
                              wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                              @Tom-K said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                              She gets all excited and squeaky when she's talking about Tomahawk missiles being fired off.

                              Now we finally get to learn what the dash means in your name! "AHAW"

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                                Mik
                                wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                                Well, missiles are rather phallic.

                                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                                  Trump clears it all up for us.

                                  They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                    21 days ago

                                    @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                    Our problem is no believable source.

                                    Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                                    @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                    @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                    Our problem is no believable source.

                                    Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?

                                    I didn't really believe it until it was verified by DNA. I feel similarly here, but no DNA applies.

                                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                    • M Mik
                                      21 days ago

                                      @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                      @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                      Our problem is no believable source.

                                      Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?

                                      I didn't really believe it until it was verified by DNA. I feel similarly here, but no DNA applies.

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                                      89th
                                      wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                                      @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                      @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                      @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                      Our problem is no believable source.

                                      Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?

                                      I didn't really believe it until it was verified by DNA. I feel similarly here, but no DNA applies.

                                      Hard comparison. There was no doubt in my mind when Obama said we got Bin Laden. If Trump said the same, I would believe him too since it's pretty clear whether we got an individual. But in this case about destroying a nuclear facility 80 meters under ground, I very much do not trust what Trump says based on his very consistent track record of lying and exaggerating. I think we made that point a few weeks ago here, that Trump will be hard to trust on war matters, and we're seeing it here. I know one thing... it would be awkward as shit if footage is released of Fordow still operating.

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                                        89th
                                        wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                                        That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

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                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          23 days ago

                                          @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                          @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                          Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

                                          Rolled in what way(s)?

                                          I purposefully wasn't specific. In all the ways one can get rolled.

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                          In all the ways one can get rolled.

                                          Reminds me of Jack Dawson, who saved Rose in all the ways a person can be saved.

                                          Link to video

                                          Education is extremely important.

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