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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    #488

    But I'm very, very interested in the future behavior of the mullahs. If it doesn't squelch the proxies the job is not done yet.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      They'll turn inwards on their own population to prevent any progressive reform in Iran

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        Really good summary, though probably a little hopeful in some aspects. Still worth the read.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • MikM Offline
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          Yeah, it’s a bit optimistic but still a pretty clear eyed look at where things are.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Oh shit, if true.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • MikM Offline
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              If you'll recall, this was exactly my objection to our involvement - possible failure to destroy Fordow.

              Now, it is absolutely true that some powers will try very hard to portray that as true, whether it is or not. Finding the truth might be difficult, but we'll be keeping an eye on the sites.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                In all likelihood it’s somewhere in between. What do they mean by months? 3? Or 120?

                The Brad

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                  6 said the report.

                  While the question of who/what to believe is ever present, before the Defense Intelligence Agency report was leaked congressmen were already publicly complaining that the Administration canceled a planned briefing.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    I thought they were years away from a bomb, according to Tulsi?

                    The Brad

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                      Trump has spent the last couple of hours making multiple posts how the bombs obliterated everything.... which probably means they didn't... sigh...

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        Our problem is no believable source.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Iranian government have arrested 700 people to suppress dissent.
                          🙄

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                          • MikM Mik

                            Our problem is no believable source.

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                            @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                            Our problem is no believable source.

                            Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?

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                            • MikM Mik

                              Our problem is no believable source.

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                              @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                              Our problem is no believable source.

                              That's the problem, we don't have a clue who's telling the truth. Or even if anyone knows what the truth is. Every news station trots out their retired 3 or 4 star general (I don't even listen to colonels) or atomic energy PhD and no two has the same opinion about anything.

                              I am somewhat partial to Rebecca Grant PhD over at Fox, though. She gets all excited and squeaky when she's talking about Tomahawk missiles being fired off.

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                              • Tom-KT Tom-K

                                @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                Our problem is no believable source.

                                That's the problem, we don't have a clue who's telling the truth. Or even if anyone knows what the truth is. Every news station trots out their retired 3 or 4 star general (I don't even listen to colonels) or atomic energy PhD and no two has the same opinion about anything.

                                I am somewhat partial to Rebecca Grant PhD over at Fox, though. She gets all excited and squeaky when she's talking about Tomahawk missiles being fired off.

                                d5db4b73-bd0b-43da-8cd5-b82fa7706208-image.png

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                                @Tom-K said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                She gets all excited and squeaky when she's talking about Tomahawk missiles being fired off.

                                Now we finally get to learn what the dash means in your name! "AHAW"

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                                • MikM Offline
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                                  Well, missiles are rather phallic.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Trump clears it all up for us.

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                      Our problem is no believable source.

                                      Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?

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                                      @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                      @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                      Our problem is no believable source.

                                      Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?

                                      I didn't really believe it until it was verified by DNA. I feel similarly here, but no DNA applies.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                        @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                        Our problem is no believable source.

                                        Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?

                                        I didn't really believe it until it was verified by DNA. I feel similarly here, but no DNA applies.

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                                        @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                        @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                        @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                        Our problem is no believable source.

                                        Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?

                                        I didn't really believe it until it was verified by DNA. I feel similarly here, but no DNA applies.

                                        Hard comparison. There was no doubt in my mind when Obama said we got Bin Laden. If Trump said the same, I would believe him too since it's pretty clear whether we got an individual. But in this case about destroying a nuclear facility 80 meters under ground, I very much do not trust what Trump says based on his very consistent track record of lying and exaggerating. I think we made that point a few weeks ago here, that Trump will be hard to trust on war matters, and we're seeing it here. I know one thing... it would be awkward as shit if footage is released of Fordow still operating.

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                                          That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

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