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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 23 Jun 2025, 23:31 last edited by
    #475

    Trump has ended 2 wars with nuclear capable foes… Just change the name of the award to The Nobel/Trump Prize. Normally, I would advocate for putting Trump’s name first, but in this case it sounds like you are saying Noble Trump, which is appropriate, and saying Noble Trump/Nobel is silly.

    You know what? Just take Nobel’s name out of it. The Noble Trump Prize…

    The Brad

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      23 Jun 2025, 23:31

      Trump has ended 2 wars with nuclear capable foes… Just change the name of the award to The Nobel/Trump Prize. Normally, I would advocate for putting Trump’s name first, but in this case it sounds like you are saying Noble Trump, which is appropriate, and saying Noble Trump/Nobel is silly.

      You know what? Just take Nobel’s name out of it. The Noble Trump Prize…

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 23 Jun 2025, 23:50 last edited by
      #476

      @LuFins-Dad said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

      Trump has ended 2 wars with nuclear capable foes… Just change the name of the award to The Nobel/Trump Prize. Normally, I would advocate for putting Trump’s name first, but in this case it sounds like you are saying Noble Trump, which is appropriate, and saying Noble Trump/Nobel is silly.

      You know what? Just take Nobel’s name out of it. The Noble Trump Prize…

      Surely a more appropriate prize for avoiding another Nagasaki would be The Fat Man Award?

      I was only joking

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 01:08 last edited by
        #477

        Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          Mik
          wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 01:16 last edited by
          #478

          H8R

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 01:19 last edited by jon-nyc
            #479

            I will cop to that.

            But I have trouble believing that Israel would say ‘we haven’t confirmed the end of their nuclear program and are no where near the end of their ballistic missile program, but we’re good.” At the same time Iran says ‘we used to think that if we lived according to Allah’s will he would make us victorious, but we were fooling ourselves’.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              24 Jun 2025, 01:08

              Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 01:37 last edited by
              #480

              @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

              Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

              Rolled in what way(s)?

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 02:10 last edited by
                #481

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                • A Axtremus
                  24 Jun 2025, 01:37

                  @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                  Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

                  Rolled in what way(s)?

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 02:11 last edited by
                  #482

                  @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                  @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                  Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

                  Rolled in what way(s)?

                  I purposefully wasn't specific. In all the ways one can get rolled.

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    bachophile
                    wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 02:24 last edited by
                    #483

                    Well it was time to wake up anyway

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      24 Jun 2025, 02:11

                      @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                      @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                      Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

                      Rolled in what way(s)?

                      I purposefully wasn't specific. In all the ways one can get rolled.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 02:26 last edited by
                      #484

                      @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                      @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                      @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                      Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

                      Rolled in what way(s)?

                      I purposefully wasn't specific. In all the ways one can get rolled.

                      Yeah, that’s a wide range of possibilities. And it could still happen.

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 15:18 last edited by
                        #485

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                          bachophile
                          wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 16:07 last edited by
                          #486

                          So…another historic thread will start to wind down…

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 16:45 last edited by
                            #487

                            Hopefully.

                            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 16:47 last edited by
                              #488

                              But I'm very, very interested in the future behavior of the mullahs. If it doesn't squelch the proxies the job is not done yet.

                              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                AndyD
                                wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 17:26 last edited by
                                #489

                                They'll turn inwards on their own population to prevent any progressive reform in Iran

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 19:39 last edited by
                                  #490

                                  Really good summary, though probably a little hopeful in some aspects. Still worth the read.

                                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 20:16 last edited by
                                    #491

                                    Yeah, it’s a bit optimistic but still a pretty clear eyed look at where things are.

                                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 21:49 last edited by
                                      #492

                                      Oh shit, if true.

                                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 22:24 last edited by Mik
                                        #493

                                        If you'll recall, this was exactly my objection to our involvement - possible failure to destroy Fordow.

                                        Now, it is absolutely true that some powers will try very hard to portray that as true, whether it is or not. Finding the truth might be difficult, but we'll be keeping an eye on the sites.

                                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 23:00 last edited by
                                          #494

                                          In all likelihood it’s somewhere in between. What do they mean by months? 3? Or 120?

                                          The Brad

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