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  • 8 89th
    23 Jun 2025, 14:11

    @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

    B2s on their way to Diego Garcia.

    Just got on TNCR so I'm catching up in this thread. Funny you posted this about the B2s and refueling plans detected flying west. I'm sure this has been discussed already but still... It's exactly what the military wanted the public to see via ADSB data. Good quick article about what was "seen" via ADSB (live flight data) in the hours preceding the attack.

    https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/flight-tracking-news/special-aircraft-tracking/how-the-world-tracked-the-b2-diversion-flights/

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    Horace
    wrote on 23 Jun 2025, 14:25 last edited by
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    @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

    @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

    B2s on their way to Diego Garcia.

    Just got on TNCR so I'm catching up in this thread. Funny you posted this about the B2s and refueling plans detected flying west. I'm sure this has been discussed already but still... It's exactly what the military wanted the public to see via ADSB data. Good quick article about what was "seen" via ADSB (live flight data) in the hours preceding the attack.

    https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/flight-tracking-news/special-aircraft-tracking/how-the-world-tracked-the-b2-diversion-flights/

    So the ability of Twitter to break news about military plans extends exactly as far as the military would like Twitter to break their plans.

    Education is extremely important.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 23 Jun 2025, 15:17 last edited by jon-nyc
      #468

      Since it happened in this case, that must be a universal law.

      Just don’t tell Jeff Goldberg.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      • H Horace
        23 Jun 2025, 14:25

        @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

        @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

        B2s on their way to Diego Garcia.

        Just got on TNCR so I'm catching up in this thread. Funny you posted this about the B2s and refueling plans detected flying west. I'm sure this has been discussed already but still... It's exactly what the military wanted the public to see via ADSB data. Good quick article about what was "seen" via ADSB (live flight data) in the hours preceding the attack.

        https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/flight-tracking-news/special-aircraft-tracking/how-the-world-tracked-the-b2-diversion-flights/

        So the ability of Twitter to break news about military plans extends exactly as far as the military would like Twitter to break their plans.

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        89th
        wrote on 23 Jun 2025, 17:10 last edited by
        #469

        @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

        @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

        @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

        B2s on their way to Diego Garcia.

        Just got on TNCR so I'm catching up in this thread. Funny you posted this about the B2s and refueling plans detected flying west. I'm sure this has been discussed already but still... It's exactly what the military wanted the public to see via ADSB data. Good quick article about what was "seen" via ADSB (live flight data) in the hours preceding the attack.

        https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/flight-tracking-news/special-aircraft-tracking/how-the-world-tracked-the-b2-diversion-flights/

        So the ability of Twitter to break news about military plans extends exactly as far as the military would like Twitter to break their plans.

        Yup. Now the next question... if we need to attack again, do we do a double fake out? Do we pretend to fake?

        0:20...

        Link to video

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        • 8 89th
          23 Jun 2025, 17:10

          @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

          @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

          @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

          B2s on their way to Diego Garcia.

          Just got on TNCR so I'm catching up in this thread. Funny you posted this about the B2s and refueling plans detected flying west. I'm sure this has been discussed already but still... It's exactly what the military wanted the public to see via ADSB data. Good quick article about what was "seen" via ADSB (live flight data) in the hours preceding the attack.

          https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/flight-tracking-news/special-aircraft-tracking/how-the-world-tracked-the-b2-diversion-flights/

          So the ability of Twitter to break news about military plans extends exactly as far as the military would like Twitter to break their plans.

          Yup. Now the next question... if we need to attack again, do we do a double fake out? Do we pretend to fake?

          0:20...

          Link to video

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          Horace
          wrote on 23 Jun 2025, 18:18 last edited by
          #470

          @89th reminds me of Andor season 2 with the spies and double agents and triple agent double crosses.

          Education is extremely important.

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            Mik
            wrote on 23 Jun 2025, 21:08 last edited by
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            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/u-s-intel-found-iran-did-not-move-nuclear-material-from-fordo-ahead-of-attack-sen-mullin-says/ar-AA1HgodX

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 23 Jun 2025, 22:09 last edited by
              #472

              It sounds like Iran warned the US about their missile launch today to allow the US to prepare the defense or evacuate, and the attack was more pro forma.

              The Brad

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                Mik
                wrote on 23 Jun 2025, 22:49 last edited by
                #473

                Yep. All theater for domestic consumption.

                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 23 Jun 2025, 23:08 last edited by Mik
                  #474

                  Cease fire. Israel is the living embodiment of FAFO.

                  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-israel-iran-ceasefire/

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 23 Jun 2025, 23:31 last edited by
                    #475

                    Trump has ended 2 wars with nuclear capable foes… Just change the name of the award to The Nobel/Trump Prize. Normally, I would advocate for putting Trump’s name first, but in this case it sounds like you are saying Noble Trump, which is appropriate, and saying Noble Trump/Nobel is silly.

                    You know what? Just take Nobel’s name out of it. The Noble Trump Prize…

                    The Brad

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                    • L LuFins Dad
                      23 Jun 2025, 23:31

                      Trump has ended 2 wars with nuclear capable foes… Just change the name of the award to The Nobel/Trump Prize. Normally, I would advocate for putting Trump’s name first, but in this case it sounds like you are saying Noble Trump, which is appropriate, and saying Noble Trump/Nobel is silly.

                      You know what? Just take Nobel’s name out of it. The Noble Trump Prize…

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 23 Jun 2025, 23:50 last edited by
                      #476

                      @LuFins-Dad said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                      Trump has ended 2 wars with nuclear capable foes… Just change the name of the award to The Nobel/Trump Prize. Normally, I would advocate for putting Trump’s name first, but in this case it sounds like you are saying Noble Trump, which is appropriate, and saying Noble Trump/Nobel is silly.

                      You know what? Just take Nobel’s name out of it. The Noble Trump Prize…

                      Surely a more appropriate prize for avoiding another Nagasaki would be The Fat Man Award?

                      I was only joking

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 01:08 last edited by
                        #477

                        Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 01:16 last edited by
                          #478

                          H8R

                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 01:19 last edited by jon-nyc
                            #479

                            I will cop to that.

                            But I have trouble believing that Israel would say ‘we haven’t confirmed the end of their nuclear program and are no where near the end of their ballistic missile program, but we’re good.” At the same time Iran says ‘we used to think that if we lived according to Allah’s will he would make us victorious, but we were fooling ourselves’.

                            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                            • J jon-nyc
                              24 Jun 2025, 01:08

                              Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 01:37 last edited by
                              #480

                              @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                              Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

                              Rolled in what way(s)?

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 02:10 last edited by
                                #481

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                • A Axtremus
                                  24 Jun 2025, 01:37

                                  @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                  Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

                                  Rolled in what way(s)?

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 02:11 last edited by
                                  #482

                                  @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                  @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                  Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

                                  Rolled in what way(s)?

                                  I purposefully wasn't specific. In all the ways one can get rolled.

                                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                    bachophile
                                    wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 02:24 last edited by
                                    #483

                                    Well it was time to wake up anyway

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                                    • J jon-nyc
                                      24 Jun 2025, 02:11

                                      @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                      @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                      Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

                                      Rolled in what way(s)?

                                      I purposefully wasn't specific. In all the ways one can get rolled.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 02:26 last edited by
                                      #484

                                      @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                      @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                      @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                      Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

                                      Rolled in what way(s)?

                                      I purposefully wasn't specific. In all the ways one can get rolled.

                                      Yeah, that’s a wide range of possibilities. And it could still happen.

                                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 15:18 last edited by
                                        #485

                                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                          bachophile
                                          wrote on 24 Jun 2025, 16:07 last edited by
                                          #486

                                          So…another historic thread will start to wind down…

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