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  • B bachophile
    24 days ago

    All clear. Now let’s see what’s the damage

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    taiwan_girl
    wrote 24 days ago last edited by
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    @bachophile said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

    All clear. Now let’s see what’s the damage

    stay safe!! 😘

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    • J jon-nyc
      24 days ago

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      taiwan_girl
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      @jon-nyc Interesting video. Just wondering why it was necessary to send decoy planes to the west.

      (Minor point, but Who are they trying to fool? I think everybody pretty much knew what was potentially going to happen. The Iran nuclear plants are so big and so complex, it is not like you could pack things up, put them in a car trunk and drive it somewhere else.)

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        jon-nyc
        wrote 24 days ago last edited by
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        Six craters in Fordo.

        IMG_5939.jpeg

        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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          Mik
          wrote 24 days ago last edited by
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          Wow. Fourteen MOPs.

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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          • J jon-nyc
            24 days ago

            We’ll see what comes of this.

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote 24 days ago last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

            We’ll see what comes of this.

            It’s not the 70’s. That will negatively affect UAB, Oman, and Asian countries. China, Japan, South Korea, etc… Very little of that oil goes to the west.

            The Brad

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              jon-nyc
              wrote 24 days ago last edited by
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              Except oil is fungible so if you cut off supply anywhere those not getting it will seek it elsewhere and bid up prices.

              Though I agrees this wouldn’t be nearly as painful as it was 50 years ago.

              They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote 24 days ago last edited by
                #436

                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                • M Mik
                  24 days ago

                  Wow. Fourteen MOPs.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote 24 days ago last edited by jon-nyc
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                  @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                  Wow. Fourteen MOPs.

                  Imagine the impact. They drop a 30,000lb skinny aerodynamic bomb from 40,000 ft. It’s going Mach 1+ when it hits. 80% of the weight is the casing. It can go through 200ft of 5,000 psi concrete. Then the 5,000 bomb goes off.

                  They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                    Mik
                    wrote 24 days ago last edited by
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                    The morning news shows are trying their best to slam the raid.

                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    • H Horace
                      25 days ago

                      How about the Trump admin managing not to leak any details of this op before it happened. I'm proud of them.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote 24 days ago last edited by jon-nyc
                      #439

                      @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                      How about the Trump admin managing not to leak any details of this op before it happened. I'm proud of them.

                      Apparently there were leaks if you run in conservative columnist circles.

                      Also NYT gave a heads up that it was imminent but that was an Israeli source.

                      They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote 24 days ago last edited by
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                        I wonder how you even do damage assessment for something like Fordo. Probably sigint from the Iranians once they figure it out. Which may well take months.

                        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                          jon-nyc
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                          This is in western Iraq near the Iran border.

                          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote 24 days ago last edited by
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                            FoxNews says at least one pilot was female.

                            They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                            • J jon-nyc
                              24 days ago

                              @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                              Wow. Fourteen MOPs.

                              Imagine the impact. They drop a 30,000lb skinny aerodynamic bomb from 40,000 ft. It’s going Mach 1+ when it hits. 80% of the weight is the casing. It can go through 200ft of 5,000 psi concrete. Then the 5,000 bomb goes off.

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote 24 days ago last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                              @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                              Wow. Fourteen MOPs.

                              Imagine the impact. They drop a 30,000lb skinny aerodynamic bomb from 40,000 ft. It’s going Mach 1+ when it hits. 80% of the weight is the casing. It can go through 200ft of 5,000 psi concrete. Then the 5,000 bomb goes off.

                              They are effectively Rods from God weapon systems.

                              The Brad

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                24 days ago

                                @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                How about the Trump admin managing not to leak any details of this op before it happened. I'm proud of them.

                                Apparently there were leaks if you run in conservative columnist circles.

                                Also NYT gave a heads up that it was imminent but that was an Israeli source.

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                                Horace
                                wrote 24 days ago last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                How about the Trump admin managing not to leak any details of this op before it happened. I'm proud of them.

                                Apparently there were leaks if you run in conservative columnist circles.

                                Also NYT gave a heads up that it was imminent but that was an Israeli source.

                                One step away from a ridiculous conspiracy theory. Careful there. I'm sure the buzz didn't make its way to twitter, out of deference to the administration.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote 24 days ago last edited by jon-nyc
                                  #445

                                  Comic and amateur historian Dave Smith.

                                  Posed ‘no threat’. Alrighty.

                                  They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote 24 days ago last edited by Mik
                                    #446

                                    I think it true that Iran did not pose an existential threat to threat to the US, unlike they did to Israel. But certainly a threat.

                                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote 24 days ago last edited by Horace
                                      #447

                                      Categorical statements like "no threat" are always wrong. It's just a matter of whether one wants to interpret language with some good will towards the speaker.

                                      I feel there are plenty enough unknowns here to at least allow that reasonable people can be on either side of the discussion of whether this was a good idea for the US.

                                      For my part, I'll go ahead and Trust Israel and the US intelligence apparatuses, and cautiously take them at their word that the world is today a safer place for both Israel and the US, as compared to what it was before Israel attacked Iran. Plus, those bombs were pretty awesome. Amazingly awesome.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        24 days ago

                                        Categorical statements like "no threat" are always wrong. It's just a matter of whether one wants to interpret language with some good will towards the speaker.

                                        I feel there are plenty enough unknowns here to at least allow that reasonable people can be on either side of the discussion of whether this was a good idea for the US.

                                        For my part, I'll go ahead and Trust Israel and the US intelligence apparatuses, and cautiously take them at their word that the world is today a safer place for both Israel and the US, as compared to what it was before Israel attacked Iran. Plus, those bombs were pretty awesome. Amazingly awesome.

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                                        kluurs
                                        wrote 24 days ago last edited by kluurs
                                        #448

                                        @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                        I feel there are plenty enough unknowns here to at least allow that reasonable people can be on either side of the discussion of whether this was a good idea

                                        All of what you said was expressed very reasonably, but this is the part that sometimes gets lost.

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote 24 days ago last edited by
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                                          To think otherwise is to believe oneself prescient. I
                                          There were good arguments both ways but ultimately one must make a decision. Now that’s been done it’s time to get behind it and the country.

                                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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