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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    It is still pending a security council decision. May not happen.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • bachophileB bachophile

        All clear. Now let’s see what’s the damage

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        @bachophile said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

        All clear. Now let’s see what’s the damage

        stay safe!! 😘

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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          @jon-nyc Interesting video. Just wondering why it was necessary to send decoy planes to the west.

          (Minor point, but Who are they trying to fool? I think everybody pretty much knew what was potentially going to happen. The Iran nuclear plants are so big and so complex, it is not like you could pack things up, put them in a car trunk and drive it somewhere else.)

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            Six craters in Fordo.

            IMG_5939.jpeg

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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            • MikM Offline
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              Wow. Fourteen MOPs.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                We’ll see what comes of this.

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                @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                We’ll see what comes of this.

                It’s not the 70’s. That will negatively affect UAB, Oman, and Asian countries. China, Japan, South Korea, etc… Very little of that oil goes to the west.

                The Brad

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                  Except oil is fungible so if you cut off supply anywhere those not getting it will seek it elsewhere and bid up prices.

                  Though I agrees this wouldn’t be nearly as painful as it was 50 years ago.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • MikM Mik

                      Wow. Fourteen MOPs.

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                      @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                      Wow. Fourteen MOPs.

                      Imagine the impact. They drop a 30,000lb skinny aerodynamic bomb from 40,000 ft. It’s going Mach 1+ when it hits. 80% of the weight is the casing. It can go through 200ft of 5,000 psi concrete. Then the 5,000 bomb goes off.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        The morning news shows are trying their best to slam the raid.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          How about the Trump admin managing not to leak any details of this op before it happened. I'm proud of them.

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                          @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                          How about the Trump admin managing not to leak any details of this op before it happened. I'm proud of them.

                          Apparently there were leaks if you run in conservative columnist circles.

                          Also NYT gave a heads up that it was imminent but that was an Israeli source.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            I wonder how you even do damage assessment for something like Fordo. Probably sigint from the Iranians once they figure it out. Which may well take months.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                              This is in western Iraq near the Iran border.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                FoxNews says at least one pilot was female.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                                  @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                  Wow. Fourteen MOPs.

                                  Imagine the impact. They drop a 30,000lb skinny aerodynamic bomb from 40,000 ft. It’s going Mach 1+ when it hits. 80% of the weight is the casing. It can go through 200ft of 5,000 psi concrete. Then the 5,000 bomb goes off.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                  @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                  Wow. Fourteen MOPs.

                                  Imagine the impact. They drop a 30,000lb skinny aerodynamic bomb from 40,000 ft. It’s going Mach 1+ when it hits. 80% of the weight is the casing. It can go through 200ft of 5,000 psi concrete. Then the 5,000 bomb goes off.

                                  They are effectively Rods from God weapon systems.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                    How about the Trump admin managing not to leak any details of this op before it happened. I'm proud of them.

                                    Apparently there were leaks if you run in conservative columnist circles.

                                    Also NYT gave a heads up that it was imminent but that was an Israeli source.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                    @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                    How about the Trump admin managing not to leak any details of this op before it happened. I'm proud of them.

                                    Apparently there were leaks if you run in conservative columnist circles.

                                    Also NYT gave a heads up that it was imminent but that was an Israeli source.

                                    One step away from a ridiculous conspiracy theory. Careful there. I'm sure the buzz didn't make its way to twitter, out of deference to the administration.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Comic and amateur historian Dave Smith.

                                      Posed ‘no threat’. Alrighty.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      • MikM Offline
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                                        I think it true that Iran did not pose an existential threat to threat to the US, unlike they did to Israel. But certainly a threat.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Categorical statements like "no threat" are always wrong. It's just a matter of whether one wants to interpret language with some good will towards the speaker.

                                          I feel there are plenty enough unknowns here to at least allow that reasonable people can be on either side of the discussion of whether this was a good idea for the US.

                                          For my part, I'll go ahead and Trust Israel and the US intelligence apparatuses, and cautiously take them at their word that the world is today a safer place for both Israel and the US, as compared to what it was before Israel attacked Iran. Plus, those bombs were pretty awesome. Amazingly awesome.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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