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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 13:30 last edited by
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    It is still pending a security council decision. May not happen.

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 13:30 last edited by
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      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      • B bachophile
        22 Jun 2025, 05:15

        All clear. Now let’s see what’s the damage

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 13:51 last edited by
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        @bachophile said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

        All clear. Now let’s see what’s the damage

        stay safe!! 😘

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        • J jon-nyc
          22 Jun 2025, 13:30

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 13:54 last edited by
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          @jon-nyc Interesting video. Just wondering why it was necessary to send decoy planes to the west.

          (Minor point, but Who are they trying to fool? I think everybody pretty much knew what was potentially going to happen. The Iran nuclear plants are so big and so complex, it is not like you could pack things up, put them in a car trunk and drive it somewhere else.)

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 13:59 last edited by
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            Six craters in Fordo.

            IMG_5939.jpeg

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              Mik
              wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 14:01 last edited by
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              Wow. Fourteen MOPs.

              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              • J jon-nyc
                22 Jun 2025, 13:13

                We’ll see what comes of this.

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 14:04 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                We’ll see what comes of this.

                It’s not the 70’s. That will negatively affect UAB, Oman, and Asian countries. China, Japan, South Korea, etc… Very little of that oil goes to the west.

                The Brad

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 14:08 last edited by
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                  Except oil is fungible so if you cut off supply anywhere those not getting it will seek it elsewhere and bid up prices.

                  Though I agrees this wouldn’t be nearly as painful as it was 50 years ago.

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 14:10 last edited by
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                    • M Mik
                      22 Jun 2025, 14:01

                      Wow. Fourteen MOPs.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 14:24 last edited by jon-nyc
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                      @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                      Wow. Fourteen MOPs.

                      Imagine the impact. They drop a 30,000lb skinny aerodynamic bomb from 40,000 ft. It’s going Mach 1+ when it hits. 80% of the weight is the casing. It can go through 200ft of 5,000 psi concrete. Then the 5,000 bomb goes off.

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 14:43 last edited by
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                        The morning news shows are trying their best to slam the raid.

                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                        • H Horace
                          22 Jun 2025, 02:08

                          How about the Trump admin managing not to leak any details of this op before it happened. I'm proud of them.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 15:17 last edited by jon-nyc
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                          @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                          How about the Trump admin managing not to leak any details of this op before it happened. I'm proud of them.

                          Apparently there were leaks if you run in conservative columnist circles.

                          Also NYT gave a heads up that it was imminent but that was an Israeli source.

                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 15:33 last edited by
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                            I wonder how you even do damage assessment for something like Fordo. Probably sigint from the Iranians once they figure it out. Which may well take months.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 15:47 last edited by
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                              This is in western Iraq near the Iran border.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 15:49 last edited by
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                                FoxNews says at least one pilot was female.

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  22 Jun 2025, 14:24

                                  @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                  Wow. Fourteen MOPs.

                                  Imagine the impact. They drop a 30,000lb skinny aerodynamic bomb from 40,000 ft. It’s going Mach 1+ when it hits. 80% of the weight is the casing. It can go through 200ft of 5,000 psi concrete. Then the 5,000 bomb goes off.

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 15:53 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                  @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                  Wow. Fourteen MOPs.

                                  Imagine the impact. They drop a 30,000lb skinny aerodynamic bomb from 40,000 ft. It’s going Mach 1+ when it hits. 80% of the weight is the casing. It can go through 200ft of 5,000 psi concrete. Then the 5,000 bomb goes off.

                                  They are effectively Rods from God weapon systems.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    22 Jun 2025, 15:17

                                    @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                    How about the Trump admin managing not to leak any details of this op before it happened. I'm proud of them.

                                    Apparently there were leaks if you run in conservative columnist circles.

                                    Also NYT gave a heads up that it was imminent but that was an Israeli source.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 16:02 last edited by
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                                    @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                    @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                    How about the Trump admin managing not to leak any details of this op before it happened. I'm proud of them.

                                    Apparently there were leaks if you run in conservative columnist circles.

                                    Also NYT gave a heads up that it was imminent but that was an Israeli source.

                                    One step away from a ridiculous conspiracy theory. Careful there. I'm sure the buzz didn't make its way to twitter, out of deference to the administration.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 16:40 last edited by jon-nyc
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                                      Comic and amateur historian Dave Smith.

                                      Posed ‘no threat’. Alrighty.

                                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 17:36 last edited by Mik
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                                        I think it true that Iran did not pose an existential threat to threat to the US, unlike they did to Israel. But certainly a threat.

                                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 18:23 last edited by Horace
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                                          Categorical statements like "no threat" are always wrong. It's just a matter of whether one wants to interpret language with some good will towards the speaker.

                                          I feel there are plenty enough unknowns here to at least allow that reasonable people can be on either side of the discussion of whether this was a good idea for the US.

                                          For my part, I'll go ahead and Trust Israel and the US intelligence apparatuses, and cautiously take them at their word that the world is today a safer place for both Israel and the US, as compared to what it was before Israel attacked Iran. Plus, those bombs were pretty awesome. Amazingly awesome.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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