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    Mik
    wrote 26 days ago last edited by
    #377

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/why-an-attack-on-fordow-could-be-a-strategic-gift-to-iran/ar-AA1H2Tqr?cmp_prftch=2

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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    • M Mik
      26 days ago

      I hear what he says, but if you are not intending to enrich weapons grade materials, why do you go to the expense of hiding your facilities half a mile under a mountain where you have to build tunnels and power facilities into it? When your stated goal is death to <whoever we don't like today> and you are sponsoring attacks on that entity is it reasonable to believe you are not intending to develop the weapon?

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote 26 days ago last edited by
      #378

      @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

      I hear what he says, but if you are not intending to enrich weapons grade materials, why do you go to the expense of hiding your facilities half a mile under a mountain where you have to build tunnels and power facilities into it? When your stated goal is death to <whoever we don't like today> and you are sponsoring attacks on that entity is it reasonable to believe you are not intending to develop the weapon?

      Same arguments regarding Hussein and the WMD inspections in 2004… Though, I still find it extremely hard to believe that there weren’t WMD… The only other explanation that I’ll entertain is that he pretended to have WMD programs to try and have some leverage…

      The Brad

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        jon-nyc
        wrote 26 days ago last edited by
        #379

        You don’t have to believe Israel or Trump. This is from the IAEA:

        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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          Mik
          wrote 26 days ago last edited by
          #380

          There ya go.

          For me it's never been about believing either one. I looked at what Iran does, not what it, or anyone else, says.

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            jon-nyc
            wrote 25 days ago last edited by
            #381

            B2s on their way to Diego Garcia.

            They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote 25 days ago last edited by jon-nyc
              #382

              I suppose this pair of tweets should adjust our priors a bit. Still, I’ll believe it when I see it.

              They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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              • J jon-nyc
                25 days ago

                B2s on their way to Diego Garcia.

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote 25 days ago last edited by
                #383

                @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                B2s on their way to Diego Garcia.

                Range of a B2 is just shy of 7K miles…

                Still, I’m surprised there aren’t B2s already stationed within range of the Middle East.

                The Brad

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                  Mik
                  wrote 25 days ago last edited by
                  #384

                  I’m not. It sends a message we have not wanted to send.

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                  • M Mik
                    25 days ago

                    I’m not. It sends a message we have not wanted to send.

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote 25 days ago last edited by
                    #385

                    @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                    I’m not. It sends a message we have not wanted to send.

                    I didn’t think it needs to be advertised. Publicly sending the B2s to the region sends a message. Having B2s regularly stationed would be normal and expected, just as having some stationed in Germany…

                    The Brad

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                      Mik
                      wrote 25 days ago last edited by
                      #386

                      If you have them already stationed then you can’t send a message by bringing them in.

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote 25 days ago last edited by Axtremus
                        #387

                        https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/21/world/iran-israel-trump

                        Trump announced the United States had struck Fordo, Iran’s heavily fortified nuclear facilities, as well as two other sites.

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                          Tom-K
                          wrote 25 days ago last edited by
                          #388

                          Well, it's started then. I hope those damn bombs work.

                          Flushing the toilet is like practicing the piano; you just cannot go too long without doing it.--Axtremus

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote 25 days ago last edited by
                            #389

                            They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                              Horace
                              wrote 25 days ago last edited by
                              #390

                              🤷 I hope this works out. Anyway, next time America gets attacked by terrorists, well know who will get blamed.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Mik
                                wrote 25 days ago last edited by
                                #391

                                Fuck me. I really did not think he’d do it.

                                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote 25 days ago last edited by
                                  #392

                                  Israel on military lockdown.

                                  They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote 25 days ago last edited by
                                    #393

                                    LOL.

                                    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote 25 days ago last edited by
                                      #394

                                      Apparently 6 Massive Ordinance Penetrator bombs were dropped on Fordow from USAF B-2 bombers. Isfahan and Natanz targeted with Tomahawk cruise missiles from submarines.

                                      They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote 25 days ago last edited by
                                        #395

                                        We’ll see if this is just bluster.

                                        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote 25 days ago last edited by
                                          #396

                                          lol.

                                          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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