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  • kluursK Offline
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    kluurs
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    #375

    Contrarian view

    Link to video

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    • MikM Away
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      Mik
      wrote last edited by Mik
      #376

      I hear what he says, but if you are not intending to enrich weapons grade materials, why do you go to the expense of hiding your facilities half a mile under a mountain where you have to build tunnels and power facilities into it? When your stated goal is death to <whoever we don't like today> and you are sponsoring attacks on that entity is it reasonable to believe you are not intending to develop the weapon?

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Away
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        Mik
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        #377

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/why-an-attack-on-fordow-could-be-a-strategic-gift-to-iran/ar-AA1H2Tqr?cmp_prftch=2

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          I hear what he says, but if you are not intending to enrich weapons grade materials, why do you go to the expense of hiding your facilities half a mile under a mountain where you have to build tunnels and power facilities into it? When your stated goal is death to <whoever we don't like today> and you are sponsoring attacks on that entity is it reasonable to believe you are not intending to develop the weapon?

          LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
          wrote last edited by
          #378

          @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

          I hear what he says, but if you are not intending to enrich weapons grade materials, why do you go to the expense of hiding your facilities half a mile under a mountain where you have to build tunnels and power facilities into it? When your stated goal is death to <whoever we don't like today> and you are sponsoring attacks on that entity is it reasonable to believe you are not intending to develop the weapon?

          Same arguments regarding Hussein and the WMD inspections in 2004… Though, I still find it extremely hard to believe that there weren’t WMD… The only other explanation that I’ll entertain is that he pretended to have WMD programs to try and have some leverage…

          The Brad

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #379

            You don’t have to believe Israel or Trump. This is from the IAEA:

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • MikM Away
              MikM Away
              Mik
              wrote last edited by
              #380

              There ya go.

              For me it's never been about believing either one. I looked at what Iran does, not what it, or anyone else, says.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                #381

                B2s on their way to Diego Garcia.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  jon-nyc
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                  #382

                  I suppose this pair of tweets should adjust our priors a bit. Still, I’ll believe it when I see it.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    B2s on their way to Diego Garcia.

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    #383

                    @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                    B2s on their way to Diego Garcia.

                    Range of a B2 is just shy of 7K miles…

                    Still, I’m surprised there aren’t B2s already stationed within range of the Middle East.

                    The Brad

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                    • MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
                      wrote last edited by
                      #384

                      I’m not. It sends a message we have not wanted to send.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        I’m not. It sends a message we have not wanted to send.

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                        @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                        I’m not. It sends a message we have not wanted to send.

                        I didn’t think it needs to be advertised. Publicly sending the B2s to the region sends a message. Having B2s regularly stationed would be normal and expected, just as having some stationed in Germany…

                        The Brad

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                        • MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
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                          If you have them already stationed then you can’t send a message by bringing them in.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • AxtremusA Away
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                            Axtremus
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                            #387

                            https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/21/world/iran-israel-trump

                            Trump announced the United States had struck Fordo, Iran’s heavily fortified nuclear facilities, as well as two other sites.

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                            • Tom-KT Offline
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                              Tom-K
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                              #388

                              Well, it's started then. I hope those damn bombs work.

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
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                                jon-nyc
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                                #389

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • HoraceH Online
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                                  Horace
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                                  🤷 I hope this works out. Anyway, next time America gets attacked by terrorists, well know who will get blamed.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • MikM Away
                                    MikM Away
                                    Mik
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                                    Fuck me. I really did not think he’d do it.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      #392

                                      Israel on military lockdown.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      • jon-nycJ Online
                                        jon-nycJ Online
                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #393

                                        LOL.

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          Apparently 6 Massive Ordinance Penetrator bombs were dropped on Fordow from USAF B-2 bombers. Isfahan and Natanz targeted with Tomahawk cruise missiles from submarines.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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