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    Mik
    wrote on 13 Jun 2025, 12:30 last edited by
    #91

    Yeah, I'm not hearing a lot of "we didn't want this to happen" in his words.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      Mik
      wrote on 13 Jun 2025, 12:40 last edited by
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      It does seem they are trying to limit radiation. Hard to do I'd imagine.

      3 hours ago
      David E. SangerWhite House reporter
      Rafael Grossi, the head of the U.N. nuclear agency, said that so far there are “no elevated radiation levels” detected around the Natanz nuclear site. He also said there were no indications of attacks so far at two other major Iranian nuclear sites, the deep-underground enrichment center at Fordow or the Isfahan nuclear fuel site, where much early processing of nuclear fuel takes place. Isfahan is also suspected of being a core location for secret nuclear weapons research, American officials say.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 13 Jun 2025, 13:11 last edited by
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        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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          AndyD
          wrote on 13 Jun 2025, 13:15 last edited by
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          @bachophile
          Stay safe.

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            13 Jun 2025, 13:11

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            89th
            wrote on 13 Jun 2025, 13:52 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

            I haven't really paid attention, but is this the first time he's claiming he gave a 60 day warning and this is now day 61?

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              bachophile
              wrote on 13 Jun 2025, 13:55 last edited by
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              If they are clamping down on the internet, they are worried about the masses. I think regime change will be the ultimate goal.

              I think it’s interesting that the oil facilities have not been hit yet. Because that I think is the key to bringing down the regime.

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              • B bachophile
                13 Jun 2025, 13:55

                If they are clamping down on the internet, they are worried about the masses. I think regime change will be the ultimate goal.

                I think it’s interesting that the oil facilities have not been hit yet. Because that I think is the key to bringing down the regime.

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                Renauda
                wrote on 13 Jun 2025, 14:16 last edited by
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                @bachophile

                I suspect you right about this.

                Stay safe bach.

                Elbows up!

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 13 Jun 2025, 14:40 last edited by
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                  It's so easy from an armchair in Ohio to support this. My loved ones are not in the line of fire.

                  Regime change would be a welcome thing, but it would have been more welcome in the 80's or 90's when more of the population remembered the less restrictive pre-revolution Iran.

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 13 Jun 2025, 15:59 last edited by
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                    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 13 Jun 2025, 16:03 last edited by
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                      Snort

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 13 Jun 2025, 16:38 last edited by
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                        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                          bachophile
                          wrote on 13 Jun 2025, 16:52 last edited by
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                          Keep on getting interesting updates on tv but I don’t know how much confirmation there is but the latest is a rocket barrage was launched from western Iran and the missiles exploded within seconds of leaving the launchers.

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                            13 Jun 2025, 16:38

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                            bachophile
                            wrote on 13 Jun 2025, 16:53 last edited by
                            #103

                            @jon-nyc hahaha

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 13 Jun 2025, 16:55 last edited by
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                              Maybe Israel is confident that Iran can't meaningfully retaliate.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 13 Jun 2025, 17:00 last edited by jon-nyc
                                #105

                                Do words count?

                                Words are violence, after all.

                                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                • B bachophile
                                  13 Jun 2025, 16:52

                                  Keep on getting interesting updates on tv but I don’t know how much confirmation there is but the latest is a rocket barrage was launched from western Iran and the missiles exploded within seconds of leaving the launchers.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 13 Jun 2025, 17:01 last edited by
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                                  @bachophile said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                  Keep on getting interesting updates on tv but I don’t know how much confirmation there is but the latest is a rocket barrage was launched from western Iran and the missiles exploded within seconds of leaving the launchers.

                                  Interesting. Gives one pause.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    bachophile
                                    wrote on 13 Jun 2025, 17:02 last edited by
                                    #107

                                    No, we keep getting messages from the powers that be, that there is still a big danger of ballistic missiles. Not to be euphoric.

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                                    • J jon-nyc
                                      13 Jun 2025, 17:00

                                      Do words count?

                                      Words are violence, after all.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 13 Jun 2025, 17:13 last edited by
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                                      @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                      Do words count?

                                      Words are violence, after all.

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                                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                      • B bachophile
                                        13 Jun 2025, 17:02

                                        No, we keep getting messages from the powers that be, that there is still a big danger of ballistic missiles. Not to be euphoric.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 13 Jun 2025, 17:25 last edited by
                                        #109

                                        @bachophile said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                        No, we keep getting messages from the powers that be, that there is still a big danger of ballistic missiles. Not to be euphoric.

                                        Only prudent and realistic under the present circumstances

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 13 Jun 2025, 17:40 last edited by
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                                          Yeah, my guess is much of the delay is rebuilding a command structure and assessing what’s not been destroyed.

                                          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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