The Epstein File
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@jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:
Indeed it is standard procedure not release those files. No doubt it contains names of many many people most of whom didn’t do anything wrong.
But he fucking campaigned on doing so and his fucking goon squad at justice talked about it incessantly.
And let’s be honest - he didn’t change his mind out of a respect for the role of the DoJ. He did so because the files, if released will embarrass him and perhaps people he cares about.
The intent of the campaign promises, as I understood them, was to prosecute anybody incriminated in the files. It may happen that there are zero people incriminated in those files. Promise kept. All of the people incriminated in the files have been prosecuted. He accomplished that on day one, but it took some time to realize that it was done.
Maybe in several decades we'll get a release of everything, like was done with the JFK assassination files. Heard about any revelations, large or small, that came of them? Me neither.
@Horace said in The Epstein File:
@jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:
Indeed it is standard procedure not release those files. No doubt it contains names of many many people most of whom didn’t do anything wrong.
But he fucking campaigned on doing so and his fucking goon squad at justice talked about it incessantly.
And let’s be honest - he didn’t change his mind out of a respect for the role of the DoJ. He did so because the files, if released will embarrass him and perhaps people he cares about.
The intent of the campaign promises, as I understood them, was to prosecute anybody incriminated in the files. It may happen that there are zero people incriminated in those files. Promise kept. All of the people incriminated in the files have been prosecuted. He accomplished that on day one, but it took some time to realize that it was done.
Maybe in several decades we'll get a release of everything, like was done with the JFK assassination files. Heard about any revelations, large or small, that came of them? Me neither.
We did learn a new key fact quite recently but not from the Trump document release.
Very recently I saw a report that said that the CIA inadvertently revealed that a CIA employee had been following Lee Harvey Oswald before he assassinated Kennedy. Can you give me details?
Yes — there is indeed a very recent and significant development: the CIA has admitted for the first time that it had knowledge of and indirect contact with Lee Harvey Oswald in the months before President Kennedy’s assassination — a fact it had long denied.
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️ What Was Revealed?
• Newly declassified CIA documents name George Joannides, a psychological‐warfare officer stationed in Miami in 1963, who ran a covert operation funding and overseeing a Cuban exile group, the Directorio Revolucionario Estudiantil (DRE) .
• Joannides, operating under the alias “Howard” (or “Howard Gebler/Gleber”), was the case officer managing the DRE—a role the CIA previously denied existed .
• The DRE had multiple direct interactions with Oswald in New Orleans during August 1963:
• A public confrontation while Oswald distributed pro‑Castro flyers.
• A televised debate between Oswald and DRE members, which boosted his public profile as a communist sympathizer  .
• For over six decades, the CIA maintained it had no pre-assassination knowledge of or connection to Oswald. These documents flatly contradict that claim and reveal internal deception .⸻
Implications & Significance
• Researchers like Jefferson Morley have called this a “breakthrough”, declaring that “the cover story for Joannides is officially dead.” 
• Additionally, Joannides later served as the CIA’s liaison to the House Select Committee on Assassinations in the late 1970s—a committee that investigated JFK’s and Martin Luther King Jr.’s assassinations—and concealed his prior role to investigators, misleading congressional officials .
• While there’s no direct evidence yet suggesting Joannides orchestrated the assassination or met Oswald personally, the revelation confirms CIA awareness and indirect engagement prior to November 1963, contrary to decades of official statements. -
@Horace said in The Epstein File:
Maybe in several decades we'll get a release of everything, like was done with the JFK assassination files. Heard about any revelations, large or small, that came of them? Me neither.
Try telling that to Ted Cruz.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Epstein File:
@Horace said in The Epstein File:
Maybe in several decades we'll get a release of everything, like was done with the JFK assassination files. Heard about any revelations, large or small, that came of them? Me neither.
Try telling that to Ted Cruz.
I have - and what he told me in response would blow your mind.
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https://www.newsweek.com/trump-jeffrey-epstein-little-black-book-thomas-massie-john-paulson-2125070
Republican Representative Thomas Massie has said billionaire John Paulson, a major donor to President Donald Trump's campaign, was in Jeffrey Epstein's "black book."
Paulson was previously named as someone in Epstein's "little black book," a contact book that was seized during investigations. Massie has raised the issue amid the backlash plaguing the Trump administration over its handling of files related to Epstein's case.
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In the Newsmax interview, Rob Schmitt asked Massie for some of these names. The congressman said: "Well, let me give you the name of one of the billionaires who's running $2 million of ads in my district since I started this effort. His name is John Paulson.
"He's a hedge fund manager and a major donor to the Republican Party, a major donor to the speaker of the House, a major donor to the president's campaign, and he's in Epstein's black book.
"Now, that's public, but that's indicative of the types of people who may be implicated or just embarrassed by a complete release of these files."
Looks like the vote may pass to do an individual vote on release of the files.
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So now Patel is saying ‘his hands are tied’ by courts.
But the courts said the exact opposite.
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/09/17/congress/kash-patel-epstein-files-hearing-00568547
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@Horace LOL
