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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
    wrote last edited by
    #165

    I know someone named "An". The word "an" likely appears multiple times in the Epstein Files. I don't believe in coincidences.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
      wrote last edited by Renauda
      #166

      Even I would be raising an eyebrow if the word combination “teh wimmenz” would appear on the alleged list.

      Elbows up!

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
        wrote last edited by
        #167

        Now THAT'S a blast from the past.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • 89th8 Offline
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          #168

          What exactly is in the files (if they are credible anyway) that would hurt trump? We know he flew on Epstein's plane, we know Epstein said he had a social relationship with Trump for a while, ad we know Epstein took the 5th when he was asked if underage girls were present when he was hanging out with Trump. A video could come out of Trump banging a 17 year old and it wouldn't change any MAGA minds about him, IMO.

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          • MikM Away
            MikM Away
            Mik
            wrote last edited by
            #169

            I think the lack of transparency after touting the release is what bothers me most. Lot of dancing going on and I don't much care for the tune.

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            • HoraceH Horace

              One thing we know for sure is that any name appearing anywhere in the gigabytes of Epstein files, is a pedophile. The only missing link in this chain, is to get that list of names.

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote last edited by Doctor Phibes
              #170

              @Horace said in The Epstein File:

              One thing we know for sure is that any name appearing anywhere in the gigabytes of Epstein files, is a pedophile. The only missing link in this chain, is to get that list of names.

              Right, obviously there's a lot of bullshit going on. The idea that there are records of people we know breaking the law seems a little unlikely.

              However, at the root of this is the undisputable fact that a lot of very influential and powerful people did actually hang out for years with somebody who can really only be described as a monster. And the tap dancing they've done since isn't exactly confidence inspiring.

              I was only joking

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              • A Offline
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                AndyD
                wrote last edited by
                #171

                Given his known, documented attitude to women and sex, to his wife, and his use of prostitutes, why would anyone doubt he made use of opportunities provided by Epstein?
                It's just a matter of with whom and how old.

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote last edited by Renauda
                  #172

                  Am beginning to wonder if the alleged list ended up on Putin’s desk for safekeeping.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    There is no right wing deep state conspiracy theory more laughable than whatever theory explains Biden's handlers not releasing dirt on Trump being a pedo.

                    jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote last edited by
                    #173

                    @Horace said in The Epstein File:

                    There is no right wing deep state conspiracy theory more laughable than whatever theory explains Biden's handlers not releasing dirt on Trump being a pedo.

                    Despite what the magtards say the Biden justice department operated by the book. Case in point, Jack Smith wanted to release to the public the incriminating evidence against Trump in the documents case and fought to do so to the end. He was ultimately unsuccessful. The maga judge even prevented him from giving it to Congress, where it would have immediately been leaked. DoJ could have leaked it in the fall, and didn’t.

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote last edited by
                      #174

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                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @Horace said in The Epstein File:

                        There is no right wing deep state conspiracy theory more laughable than whatever theory explains Biden's handlers not releasing dirt on Trump being a pedo.

                        Despite what the magtards say the Biden justice department operated by the book. Case in point, Jack Smith wanted to release to the public the incriminating evidence against Trump in the documents case and fought to do so to the end. He was ultimately unsuccessful. The maga judge even prevented him from giving it to Congress, where it would have immediately been leaked. DoJ could have leaked it in the fall, and didn’t.

                        HoraceH Offline
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                        Horace
                        wrote last edited by
                        #175

                        @jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:

                        @Horace said in The Epstein File:

                        There is no right wing deep state conspiracy theory more laughable than whatever theory explains Biden's handlers not releasing dirt on Trump being a pedo.

                        Despite what the magtards say the Biden justice department operated by the book. Case in point, Jack Smith wanted to release to the public the incriminating evidence against Trump in the documents case and fought to do so to the end. He was ultimately unsuccessful. The maga judge even prevented him from giving it to Congress, where it would have immediately been leaked. DoJ could have leaked it in the fall, and didn’t.

                        It's difficult to make any sense of this cope. I would never put words in your mouth, but my best guess is that ... you're claiming it would have been illegal for the Biden admin to release incriminating evidence against Trump, from the Epstein files? That's the rhetorical play here?

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote last edited by
                          #176

                          Cope. lol. Pure projection.

                          I don’t know if it’s illegal but it certainly isn’t DoJ policy to comb through files looking for embarrassing information about private individuals and release it to the public. At least before Bondi took over.

                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote last edited by
                            #177

                            The defense that Trump must be innocent because if he wasn't Biden would have released the data ignores the fact that the Democrats may have not wanted to release the data due to other names being in the file, and if they release very limited information, there's a really good chance of it triggering an avalanche.

                            Or are we really saying that nobody (other than Ghislaine Maxwell) is implicated in all of the data seized? How unusual that after so much widespread alleged sexual misconduct, the only person who's gone to jail is a single woman.

                            I was only joking

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Cope. lol. Pure projection.

                              I don’t know if it’s illegal but it certainly isn’t DoJ policy to comb through files looking for embarrassing information about private individuals and release it to the public. At least before Bondi took over.

                              HoraceH Offline
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                              Horace
                              wrote last edited by
                              #178

                              @jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:

                              Cope. lol. Pure projection.

                              I don’t know if it’s illegal but it certainly isn’t DoJ policy to comb through files looking for embarrassing information about private individuals and release it to the public. At least before Bondi took over.

                              So it's your contention that the Biden DOJ chose not to bury Trump in incriminating evidence from the Epstein files, because it would have been rude.

                              Maybe you really do need Jolly, to keep you on the rails.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                The defense that Trump must be innocent because if he wasn't Biden would have released the data ignores the fact that the Democrats may have not wanted to release the data due to other names being in the file, and if they release very limited information, there's a really good chance of it triggering an avalanche.

                                Or are we really saying that nobody (other than Ghislaine Maxwell) is implicated in all of the data seized? How unusual that after so much widespread alleged sexual misconduct, the only person who's gone to jail is a single woman.

                                HoraceH Offline
                                HoraceH Offline
                                Horace
                                wrote last edited by
                                #179

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in The Epstein File:

                                The defense that Trump must be innocent because if he wasn't Biden would have released the data ignores the fact that the Democrats may have not wanted to release the data due to other names being in the file, and if they release very limited information, there's a really good chance of it triggering an avalanche.

                                That's the most common justification, and I ignore it because I give a vanishingly low probability that those files with all those incriminated names would have survived without being leaked, through two administrations.

                                Or are we really saying that nobody (other than Ghislaine Maxwell) is implicated in all of the data seized? How unusual that after so much widespread alleged sexual misconduct, the only person who's gone to jail is a single woman.

                                Pretty sure Epstein went to jail as well. It's not that difficult to imagine that Epstein did not in fact have a bunch of incriminating evidence in his home office. Those theories seem to rest on Epstein blackmailing all these people, an allegation that has never been substantiated. If he was doing that, word would have gotten around, and his access to powerful people would have ended.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  @jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:

                                  Cope. lol. Pure projection.

                                  I don’t know if it’s illegal but it certainly isn’t DoJ policy to comb through files looking for embarrassing information about private individuals and release it to the public. At least before Bondi took over.

                                  So it's your contention that the Biden DOJ chose not to bury Trump in incriminating evidence from the Epstein files, because it would have been rude.

                                  Maybe you really do need Jolly, to keep you on the rails.

                                  jon-nycJ Offline
                                  jon-nycJ Offline
                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #180

                                  @Horace said in The Epstein File:

                                  @jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:

                                  So it's your contention that the Biden DOJ chose not to bury Trump in incriminating evidence from the Epstein files, because it would have been rude.

                                  That’s like saying they chose not to arrest the ambassador of Costa Rica, because it would have been rude.

                                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

                                  HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @Horace said in The Epstein File:

                                    @jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:

                                    So it's your contention that the Biden DOJ chose not to bury Trump in incriminating evidence from the Epstein files, because it would have been rude.

                                    That’s like saying they chose not to arrest the ambassador of Costa Rica, because it would have been rude.

                                    HoraceH Offline
                                    HoraceH Offline
                                    Horace
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #181

                                    @jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:

                                    @Horace said in The Epstein File:

                                    @jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:

                                    So it's your contention that the Biden DOJ chose not to bury Trump in incriminating evidence from the Epstein files, because it would have been rude.

                                    That’s like saying they chose not to arrest the ambassador of Costa Rica, because it would have been rude.

                                    No, it's actually like saying they chose not to bury their political arch-enemy, the guy who was an existential threat to our very democracy, because there's some sort of unwritten rule against combing through gathered evidence in a criminal investigation to build a case against him. That's what you said. They followed that unwritten rule. You basically claimed that Trump might be incriminated in the files, but the Biden DOJ didn't really look, because uncovering dirt on Trump would have been inappropriate. Not within protocol.

                                    Of course, you don't believe any of that, but you'll happily say it.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Epstein File:

                                      The defense that Trump must be innocent because if he wasn't Biden would have released the data ignores the fact that the Democrats may have not wanted to release the data due to other names being in the file, and if they release very limited information, there's a really good chance of it triggering an avalanche.

                                      That's the most common justification, and I ignore it because I give a vanishingly low probability that those files with all those incriminated names would have survived without being leaked, through two administrations.

                                      Or are we really saying that nobody (other than Ghislaine Maxwell) is implicated in all of the data seized? How unusual that after so much widespread alleged sexual misconduct, the only person who's gone to jail is a single woman.

                                      Pretty sure Epstein went to jail as well. It's not that difficult to imagine that Epstein did not in fact have a bunch of incriminating evidence in his home office. Those theories seem to rest on Epstein blackmailing all these people, an allegation that has never been substantiated. If he was doing that, word would have gotten around, and his access to powerful people would have ended.

                                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #182

                                      @Horace said in The Epstein File:

                                      Pretty sure Epstein went to jail as well.

                                      It took an awfully long time to nail him.

                                      There doesn't actually have to be sexual impropriety in the documentation. There could be very embarrassing records of deals that were done to prevent him from being prosecuted for rape and child abuse back in 2006.

                                      It seems unlikely that Epstein hung around with Clinton and Trump just because they were fun guys to be with.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        @jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:

                                        @Horace said in The Epstein File:

                                        @jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:

                                        So it's your contention that the Biden DOJ chose not to bury Trump in incriminating evidence from the Epstein files, because it would have been rude.

                                        That’s like saying they chose not to arrest the ambassador of Costa Rica, because it would have been rude.

                                        No, it's actually like saying they chose not to bury their political arch-enemy, the guy who was an existential threat to our very democracy, because there's some sort of unwritten rule against combing through gathered evidence in a criminal investigation to build a case against him. That's what you said. They followed that unwritten rule. You basically claimed that Trump might be incriminated in the files, but the Biden DOJ didn't really look, because uncovering dirt on Trump would have been inappropriate. Not within protocol.

                                        Of course, you don't believe any of that, but you'll happily say it.

                                        jon-nycJ Offline
                                        jon-nycJ Offline
                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                                        #183

                                        @Horace said in The Epstein File:

                                        @jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:

                                        @Horace said in The Epstein File:

                                        @jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:

                                        So it's your contention that the Biden DOJ chose not to bury Trump in incriminating evidence from the Epstein files, because it would have been rude.

                                        That’s like saying they chose not to arrest the ambassador of Costa Rica, because it would have been rude.

                                        No, it's actually like saying they chose not to bury their political arch-enemy, the guy who was an existential threat to our very democracy, because there's some sort of unwritten rule against combing through gathered evidence in a criminal investigation to build a case against him. That's what you said. They followed that unwritten rule. You basically claimed that Trump might be incriminated in the files, but the Biden DOJ didn't really look, because uncovering dirt on Trump would have been inappropriate. Not within protocol.

                                        Of course, you don't believe any of that, but you'll happily say it.

                                        It’s completely true. Nobody at DoJ would have considered it and no one in the political operation would have asked for it.

                                        Again - why didn’t they leak all the incriminating evidence from the classified doc and subsequent obstruction? They really really wanted to get it out there, tried to find an appropriate means, failed. And didn’t leak it.

                                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #184

                                          Trump has so normalized using DoJ as a partisan machine people are starting to assume it’s always been that way.

                                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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