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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

    There's no strategy. It's just one "bright idea" being thrown out after another.

    This. I think it is true what @Renauda quoted Amb. Bolton that

    "He does not have a philosophy. He does not do grand strategy on national security. He doesn't do policy as we normally understand that term ... There's no master plan. That's beyond Trump's capability".

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    @taiwan_girl

    Bolton would not be my go-to on things Trump.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @taiwan_girl

      Bolton would not be my go-to on things Trump.

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      Renauda
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      #87

      @Jolly

      Bolton would not be my go-to on things Trump.

      On the contrary, John Bolton along with James Mattis, John Kelly, H. R. McMaster and even, Rex Tillerson ought to be the first order of go-to‘s on things Trump. Especially with regard to security, defence and foreign policy.

      TG knows that and so do you.

      Elbows up!

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        According to a report from Defence Security Asia, Israel proposed that a significant portion of Egypt's $100B foreign debt through the World Bank be forgiven if Egypt allowed the entry of Palestinian residents from the Gaza Strip through the Rafah border crossing.

        However, the Egyptian government has consistently rejected such proposals, expressing concerns over national security and the potential for forced displacement of Palestinians. Egyptian officials have emphasized their refusal to allow the forced expulsion of Palestinian residents from their homeland, citing the potential impact on regional stability.

        That proposal floated back when things were just getting messy post October 7. I don't think Egypt's enthusiasm has waned in the months since.

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          Only non-witches get due process.

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            Trump's just having fun, now.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  Speaking of John Bolton:

                  Trump's former national security adviser, John Bolton, tells the BBC that the president's proposal to redevelop Gaza into the "Riviera of the Middle East" is "just isn't going to happen".

                  He says the US role in such a plan would have to be between "slim and none" because "you can't put Americans in that kind of security environment without military protection and that just isn't going to happen".

                  But he does suggest Palestinians in Gaza be offered resettlement.

                  "Rebuilding a high-rise refugee camp is not an answer," he says, suggesting instead the possibility of "some kind of resettlement which would not be forcible but which would be consistent with international refugee doctrine".

                  https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cvg4zwwez9et?post=asset%3Aee0e8086-d950-4aaf-b352-187a1b46e6c3#post

                  Elbows up!

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    The "flavor of the day" seems to be bashing USAID.

                    How many people here know what they do and how they operate?

                    (BTW, their budget is about USD$40BB a year. US Budget for the year is USD%6.1 trillion.)

                    For contrast, the secret service has a budget of about USD$3B/year, with

                    $1.2 billion in funding for Protective Operations — the division that oversees protection for the president, vice president and their families.

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                    @taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                    The "flavor of the day" seems to be bashing USAID.

                    How many people here know what they do and how they operate?

                    (BTW, their budget is about USD$40BB a year. US Budget for the year is USD%6.1 trillion.)

                    I know, up close and personal. 15% Good, 85% Absolutely Criminal.

                    The USAID pause and reconfiguration is probably my 2nd favorite thing he’s done so far:

                    The Brad

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      The "flavor of the day" seems to be bashing USAID.

                      How many people here know what they do and how they operate?

                      (BTW, their budget is about USD$40BB a year. US Budget for the year is USD%6.1 trillion.)

                      For contrast, the secret service has a budget of about USD$3B/year, with

                      $1.2 billion in funding for Protective Operations — the division that oversees protection for the president, vice president and their families.

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                      @taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                      ?

                      (BTW, their budget is about USD$40BB a year. US Budget for the year is USD%6.1 trillion.)

                      My mortgage costs me $36,000 per year, so I shouldn’t worry about $10 eggs?

                      The Brad

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                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                        Speaking of John Bolton:

                        Trump's former national security adviser, John Bolton, tells the BBC that the president's proposal to redevelop Gaza into the "Riviera of the Middle East" is "just isn't going to happen".

                        He says the US role in such a plan would have to be between "slim and none" because "you can't put Americans in that kind of security environment without military protection and that just isn't going to happen".

                        But he does suggest Palestinians in Gaza be offered resettlement.

                        "Rebuilding a high-rise refugee camp is not an answer," he says, suggesting instead the possibility of "some kind of resettlement which would not be forcible but which would be consistent with international refugee doctrine".

                        https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cvg4zwwez9et?post=asset%3Aee0e8086-d950-4aaf-b352-187a1b46e6c3#post

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                        @Renauda said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                        Speaking of John Bolton:

                        Trump's former national security adviser, John Bolton, tells the BBC that the president's proposal to redevelop Gaza into the "Riviera of the Middle East" is "just isn't going to happen".

                        He says the US role in such a plan would have to be between "slim and none" because "you can't put Americans in that kind of security environment without military protection and that just isn't going to happen".

                        But he does suggest Palestinians in Gaza be offered resettlement.

                        "Rebuilding a high-rise refugee camp is not an answer," he says, suggesting instead the possibility of "some kind of resettlement which would not be forcible but which would be consistent with international refugee doctrine".

                        https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cvg4zwwez9et?post=asset%3Aee0e8086-d950-4aaf-b352-187a1b46e6c3#post

                        I seem to recall hearing the Abraham Accords weren’t going to happen. They did. The US owning Gaza isn’t happening. The US rebuilding and administering Gaza for 20 years? And getting temporary refugee settlements during rebuilding? That’s a different question.

                        The Brad

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                          Remember when USAID tried to overthrow Cuba with a social media platform? Good times…

                          https://qz.com/195047/cubas-rulers-were-right-the-us-was-trying-to-use-social-media-to-overthrow-the-regime

                          The Brad

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                            @LuFins-Dad

                            I seem to recall hearing the Abraham Accords weren’t going to happen. They did.

                            Yes and all this turning Gaza into an exclusive US development property and forcibly relocating its refugee population in some other Arab country’s desert oasis, is not only undermining the existing Accords but any hope for future expansion of the Accords in the region.

                            That would be a foreign policy failure.

                            The US rebuilding and administering Gaza for 20 years? And getting temporary refugee settlements during rebuilding? That’s a different question.

                            Yes, and Bolton said as much. However what Trump is presently going on about suggests there’s nothing temporary about the resettlement of refugees.

                            It’s as if he wants to go back the interwar period of Mandates but without the expense having to deploy troops or the inconvenience of any local WOG inhabitants around who might get in the way or go all out religious and stark raving tribal fanatic.

                            Didn’t work very well first time around. Not likely to work this time either.

                            • yes I know it’s a politically incorrect racist slur. I assure everyone that it was quite intentional for the sake of emphasis and more than just a spoonful of sarcasm.

                            Elbows up!

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                              It’s nearly impossible to see a reasonable path forward for Palestinians. But the burden is rightly on Israel. You broke it. As noble a goal as it was, they did not eliminate Hamas.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik

                                It’s nearly impossible to see a reasonable path forward for Palestinians. But the burden is rightly on Israel. You broke it. As noble a goal as it was, they did not eliminate Hamas.

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                                @Mik

                                It’s nearly impossible to see a reasonable path forward for Palestinians

                                And that’s the predicament, their fanaticism makes them their own worst enemies in finding a path forward.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  It’s a Hydra. Cut off one head and two grow back.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        Wasting away in Gazaritaville.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          Lol

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