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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    The "flavor of the day" seems to be bashing USAID.

    How many people here know what they do and how they operate?

    (BTW, their budget is about USD$40BB a year. US Budget for the year is USD%6.1 trillion.)

    For contrast, the secret service has a budget of about USD$3B/year, with

    $1.2 billion in funding for Protective Operations — the division that oversees protection for the president, vice president and their families.

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    @taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

    The "flavor of the day" seems to be bashing USAID.

    How many people here know what they do and how they operate?

    (BTW, their budget is about USD$40BB a year. US Budget for the year is USD%6.1 trillion.)

    I know, up close and personal. 15% Good, 85% Absolutely Criminal.

    The USAID pause and reconfiguration is probably my 2nd favorite thing he’s done so far:

    The Brad

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      The "flavor of the day" seems to be bashing USAID.

      How many people here know what they do and how they operate?

      (BTW, their budget is about USD$40BB a year. US Budget for the year is USD%6.1 trillion.)

      For contrast, the secret service has a budget of about USD$3B/year, with

      $1.2 billion in funding for Protective Operations — the division that oversees protection for the president, vice president and their families.

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      @taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

      ?

      (BTW, their budget is about USD$40BB a year. US Budget for the year is USD%6.1 trillion.)

      My mortgage costs me $36,000 per year, so I shouldn’t worry about $10 eggs?

      The Brad

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      • RenaudaR Renauda

        Speaking of John Bolton:

        Trump's former national security adviser, John Bolton, tells the BBC that the president's proposal to redevelop Gaza into the "Riviera of the Middle East" is "just isn't going to happen".

        He says the US role in such a plan would have to be between "slim and none" because "you can't put Americans in that kind of security environment without military protection and that just isn't going to happen".

        But he does suggest Palestinians in Gaza be offered resettlement.

        "Rebuilding a high-rise refugee camp is not an answer," he says, suggesting instead the possibility of "some kind of resettlement which would not be forcible but which would be consistent with international refugee doctrine".

        https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cvg4zwwez9et?post=asset%3Aee0e8086-d950-4aaf-b352-187a1b46e6c3#post

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        @Renauda said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

        Speaking of John Bolton:

        Trump's former national security adviser, John Bolton, tells the BBC that the president's proposal to redevelop Gaza into the "Riviera of the Middle East" is "just isn't going to happen".

        He says the US role in such a plan would have to be between "slim and none" because "you can't put Americans in that kind of security environment without military protection and that just isn't going to happen".

        But he does suggest Palestinians in Gaza be offered resettlement.

        "Rebuilding a high-rise refugee camp is not an answer," he says, suggesting instead the possibility of "some kind of resettlement which would not be forcible but which would be consistent with international refugee doctrine".

        https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cvg4zwwez9et?post=asset%3Aee0e8086-d950-4aaf-b352-187a1b46e6c3#post

        I seem to recall hearing the Abraham Accords weren’t going to happen. They did. The US owning Gaza isn’t happening. The US rebuilding and administering Gaza for 20 years? And getting temporary refugee settlements during rebuilding? That’s a different question.

        The Brad

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          Remember when USAID tried to overthrow Cuba with a social media platform? Good times…

          https://qz.com/195047/cubas-rulers-were-right-the-us-was-trying-to-use-social-media-to-overthrow-the-regime

          The Brad

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            @LuFins-Dad

            I seem to recall hearing the Abraham Accords weren’t going to happen. They did.

            Yes and all this turning Gaza into an exclusive US development property and forcibly relocating its refugee population in some other Arab country’s desert oasis, is not only undermining the existing Accords but any hope for future expansion of the Accords in the region.

            That would be a foreign policy failure.

            The US rebuilding and administering Gaza for 20 years? And getting temporary refugee settlements during rebuilding? That’s a different question.

            Yes, and Bolton said as much. However what Trump is presently going on about suggests there’s nothing temporary about the resettlement of refugees.

            It’s as if he wants to go back the interwar period of Mandates but without the expense having to deploy troops or the inconvenience of any local WOG inhabitants around who might get in the way or go all out religious and stark raving tribal fanatic.

            Didn’t work very well first time around. Not likely to work this time either.

            • yes I know it’s a politically incorrect racist slur. I assure everyone that it was quite intentional for the sake of emphasis and more than just a spoonful of sarcasm.

            Elbows up!

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              It’s nearly impossible to see a reasonable path forward for Palestinians. But the burden is rightly on Israel. You broke it. As noble a goal as it was, they did not eliminate Hamas.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                It’s nearly impossible to see a reasonable path forward for Palestinians. But the burden is rightly on Israel. You broke it. As noble a goal as it was, they did not eliminate Hamas.

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                @Mik

                It’s nearly impossible to see a reasonable path forward for Palestinians

                And that’s the predicament, their fanaticism makes them their own worst enemies in finding a path forward.

                Elbows up!

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                  It’s a Hydra. Cut off one head and two grow back.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        Wasting away in Gazaritaville.

                        Elbows up!

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                          Lol

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Apologies for the ear worm.

                            Couldn’t help it. Such a low hanging lime fruit.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              @taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                              ?

                              (BTW, their budget is about USD$40BB a year. US Budget for the year is USD%6.1 trillion.)

                              My mortgage costs me $36,000 per year, so I shouldn’t worry about $10 eggs?

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                              @LuFins-Dad said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                              @taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                              ?

                              (BTW, their budget is about USD$40BB a year. US Budget for the year is USD%6.1 trillion.)

                              My mortgage costs me $36,000 per year, so I shouldn’t worry about $10 eggs?

                              If those eggs were feeding a thousand people, maybe.

                              (I don't know enough to have an opinion, I am naive and presumed USAID was helping lots of people, but now I can't get the phrase "bragging about using a coupon while buying a Ferrari" out of my head)

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                              • MikM Mik

                                It’s nearly impossible to see a reasonable path forward for Palestinians. But the burden is rightly on Israel. You broke it. As noble a goal as it was, they did not eliminate Hamas.

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                                @Mik said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                It’s nearly impossible to see a reasonable path forward for Palestinians. But the burden is rightly on Israel. You broke it. As noble a goal as it was, they did not eliminate Hamas.

                                No, you can eliminate it. The world won't sanction it, but it can be done.

                                Seen any Carthaginians lately? 😉

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                    The "flavor of the day" seems to be bashing USAID.

                                    How many people here know what they do and how they operate?

                                    (BTW, their budget is about USD$40BB a year. US Budget for the year is USD%6.1 trillion.)

                                    I know, up close and personal. 15% Good, 85% Absolutely Criminal.

                                    The USAID pause and reconfiguration is probably my 2nd favorite thing he’s done so far:

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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                    I know, up close and personal. 15% Good, 85% Absolutely Criminal.

                                    The USAID pause and reconfiguration is probably my 2nd favorite thing he’s done so far:

                                    Not my experience, through my periphery and and also pretty close interaction with USAID is in quite a few foreign countries.

                                    On a larger picture, change is necessary. It absolutely is. But change just for change is not always the answer. There is a reason that the US has been the most powerful country in the world for the last 100+ years. Things work, both in government and in the private side. Killing a mosquito with a sledgehammer may kill the mosquito but cause other damage that is worse than the mosquito.

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      @taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                      ?

                                      (BTW, their budget is about USD$40BB a year. US Budget for the year is USD%6.1 trillion.)

                                      My mortgage costs me $36,000 per year, so I shouldn’t worry about $10 eggs?

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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                      @taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                      ?

                                      (BTW, their budget is about USD$40BB a year. US Budget for the year is USD%6.1 trillion.)

                                      My mortgage costs me $36,000 per year, so I shouldn’t worry about $10 eggs?

                                      You should, and that is why I said that. Each time President Trump goes to Florida to golf, it costs something like a minimum of USD$2MM in security costs alone. Is it worth it?

                                      In my mind, yes. Should he go there less? I think it is up to him. A president is never "off the job". It is the most powerful job in the world. Being able to get some down time is a necessary part of the job.

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        @taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                        ?

                                        (BTW, their budget is about USD$40BB a year. US Budget for the year is USD%6.1 trillion.)

                                        My mortgage costs me $36,000 per year, so I shouldn’t worry about $10 eggs?

                                        Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                        My mortgage costs me $36,000 per year, so I shouldn’t worry about $10 eggs?

                                        It was only $20K last week.

                                        Welcome to Trump's America.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          @Mik said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                          It’s nearly impossible to see a reasonable path forward for Palestinians. But the burden is rightly on Israel. You broke it. As noble a goal as it was, they did not eliminate Hamas.

                                          No, you can eliminate it. The world won't sanction it, but it can be done.

                                          Seen any Carthaginians lately? 😉

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                                          @Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                          @Mik said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                          It’s nearly impossible to see a reasonable path forward for Palestinians. But the burden is rightly on Israel. You broke it. As noble a goal as it was, they did not eliminate Hamas.

                                          No, you can eliminate it. The world won't sanction it, but it can be done.

                                          Seen any Carthaginians lately? 😉

                                          Oh, I've spoken on that many times. It's only in the last century or so that it would not have been done.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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