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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    @blondie @Renauda @xenon What is the mood/thoughts on the election today?

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      This thread is as good a place as any to post this

      Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) on Monday asked President Trump for an exemption for farmers on the sweeping tariffs he imposed over the weekend.

      Why it matters: Republican lawmakers from agricultural states may find themselves in a tough spot as they try to avoid going against their party leader, while still protecting their constituents.

      American Farm Bureau President Zippy Duvall said in a statement over the weekend that "farmers and rural communities will bear the brunt of retaliation" from the tariffs.

      https://www.axios.com/2025/02/03/grassley-trump-tariffs-congress-farm-states

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      @taiwan_girl said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

      This thread is as good a place as any to post this

      Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) on Monday asked President Trump for an exemption for farmers on the sweeping tariffs he imposed over the weekend.

      Why it matters: Republican lawmakers from agricultural states may find themselves in a tough spot as they try to avoid going against their party leader, while still protecting their constituents.

      American Farm Bureau President Zippy Duvall said in a statement over the weekend that "farmers and rural communities will bear the brunt of retaliation" from the tariffs.

      https://www.axios.com/2025/02/03/grassley-trump-tariffs-congress-farm-states

      Follow up to the above from a couple of months ago:

      President Trump is prepared to bail out American farmers if the trade war continues squeezing commodity exports, Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins said Sunday.

      Why it matters: Exports of key commodities are plunging, particularly soybean and pork sales to China, threatening tens of billions of dollars in farm income.
      What they're saying: "First of all, the prayer is that that doesn't need to happen — but secondly, if it does, for the short term, just as in Trump 1, we are preparing for that," Rollins told CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday.

      Catch up quick: In Trump's first term, amid a smaller trade war with China, the government rolled out tens of billions of dollars in farm subsidies.

      Those bailouts, collectively, ended up being so large that they almost equaled the tariff revenue generated.

      The intrigue: Agriculture consultants and economists tell Axios that farmers don't necessarily want bailouts — they want trade certainty so they can harvest and sell their crops.

      "Trade aid isn't going to be farmers' first choice for a solution of all this, farmers prefer to earn their money from the markets," American Soybean Association economist Jacquie Holland said this week.

      The bottom line: Rollins said it would probably be a few months before any need for aid was evident.

      "I don't think we're going to need it, but if we do, it will be there," she said.

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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        @blondie @Renauda @xenon What is the mood/thoughts on the election today?

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        @taiwan_girl said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        @blondie @Renauda @xenon What is the mood/thoughts on the election today?

        No different from yesterday. Liberal majority. Poilievre is toast as Conservative leader and the party will split yet again. NDP will also be decimated.

        Elbows up!

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          Seriously, Trump should just stop:

          https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/donald-trump-election-canada-truth-social-1.7520212

          Trump grows evermore loathsome as each day passes.

          Elbows up!

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            Yes, he should.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Chuck Todd:

              “He’s doing some last minute GOTV for the Carney campaign.”

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  Wow. Poilievre even lost his seat.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    Is there nothing Trump can't do?

                    I was only joking

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                      January 1st he was a shoe-in for PM. Today he loses his day job. It’s quite a reversal of fortune.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        It could be anything. I'll wait for further information before passing any judgments.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Liberal Canada is going to be so jealous when they see all those factory jobs in America.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Here's a slightly more detailed image:

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                              Because I am lazy, I will ask here. 555

                              Why did the New Democratic Party reduce so much? What is their "platform"?

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                                I'm guessing 60% of them jumped to the liberal party ship, along with 10% of the conservatives. To answer your question, I think the New Dem Part is "left" of the liberal party, so perhaps folks were looking for pragmatic moderation in order to defeat the conservatives.

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                                  When I lived there the main reason to vote NDP seemed to be to feel better about yourself. I'm not sure whether that's still true. Presumably left-leaning people felt it was more important to vote for somebody who can actually win?

                                  I was only joking

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                                    What’s weird odd totally predictable is that Trump bragged about this in an interview yesterday. Not that he wanted the liberal party to win, he was just bragging about his power to fuck things up anywhere.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      What’s weird odd totally predictable is that Trump bragged about this in an interview yesterday. Not that he wanted the liberal party to win, he was just bragging about his power to fuck things up anywhere.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                      What’s weird odd totally predictable is that Trump bragged about this in an interview yesterday. Not that he wanted the liberal party to win, he was just bragging about his power to fuck things up anywhere.

                                      As long as it's about him, he's happy. That boy ain't right.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        What’s weird odd totally predictable is that Trump bragged about this in an interview yesterday. Not that he wanted the liberal party to win, he was just bragging about his power to fuck things up anywhere.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        What’s weird odd totally predictable is that Trump bragged about this in an interview yesterday. Not that he wanted the liberal party to win, he was just bragging about his power to fuck things up anywhere.

                                        You know, there is a small percentage chance that Trump one day will literally say "I'm a democrat now" and totally EFF the GOP as long as it retains him some form of power. He's already screwing the GOP for 2026 so maybe this is like 7D chess?

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                                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                          Because I am lazy, I will ask here. 555

                                          Why did the New Democratic Party reduce so much? What is their "platform"?

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                                          @taiwan_girl said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          Because I am lazy, I will ask here. 555

                                          Why did the New Democratic Party reduce so much? What is their "platform"?

                                          Same reason that workers in the US were attracted to the populist messaging of the MAGA movement Republicans. Progressive policies are, for the most part, disdainful to the enlightened urban proletariat.

                                          Likewise, the more centre left NDP voters cast the ballots for the Carney Liberals in order to fend off the more populist Poilievre Conservatives.

                                          The NDP essentially had no coherent platform other than tax, spend and cater to populist identity politics.

                                          Even with only seven seats in Parliament, the NDP can continue to hold the balance of power to prop up the Liberal minority which has largely abandoned the progressive policies of the Trudeau era. If anything, last night’s election spelt the end of the more radical Progressivist domestic politics that have characterised much the last decade in Canada.

                                          I expected Liberal majority and the decimation of the NDP. I am however pleased to see a Liberal minority - although ballots in some Ridings still being counted and the results could end with a razor thin Liberal majority. Most of all I am very pleased to see a resounding rejection of Progressivist populism on the left and a reining in of reactionary populism masquerading as conservatism on the right.

                                          Overall, a big win for Canada from coast to coast, north and south.

                                          Elbows up!

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