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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
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    Fact checking Trump’s allegations from yesterday:

    "We subsidize a lot of countries and keep them going and keep them in business," Trump said. "In the case of Mexico, it's $300 billion. In the case of Canada, it's close to $200 billion a year."

    According to the Office of the United States Trade Representative, The U.S. goods trade deficit with Canada was $63.3 billion in 2024, down from $64 billion in 2023. That's far less than Trump claimed on Wednesday.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fact-checking-donald-trump-s-claims-about-canada-in-his-global-tariff-speech-1.7500989

    Elbows up!

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      https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-vote-protesting-trumps-tariff-moves-draws-some-republican-support-2025-04-02/

      US Senate passes bill aimed at stopping Trump tariffs on Canada

      Doesn't mean the House will take it up, of course.

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        #475

        No one here is pinning any hope on it.

        We do however appreciate the symbolic gesture and will make note of which Republicans in particular supported it.

        Elbows up!

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        • RenaudaR Offline
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          #476

          Trump is at it again, campaigning for the Carney Liberals:

          "I'm really not trolling. Canada is an interesting case.…  I say the only way this thing really works is for Canada to become a state."

          https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-time-interview-analysis-1.7519086

          And just like that, Donald Trump single handedly defeated the Conservative Party of Canada causing it, for the fourth time in nine years, to implode on itself and eat yet another, of its leaders.

          Six months ago it was the Trudeau Liberal Party irretrievably heading into the rubbish bin and political wilderness. Donald Trump changed that with his uncontrollable flapping Yankee (in Canadian dialect that means -fucking Yank) populist tongue; his very nemesis of the North, the Liberal Party of Canada are about to hold parliament and form a majority government.

          Elbows up!

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            @blondie @Renauda @xenon What is the mood/thoughts on the election today?

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              This thread is as good a place as any to post this

              Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) on Monday asked President Trump for an exemption for farmers on the sweeping tariffs he imposed over the weekend.

              Why it matters: Republican lawmakers from agricultural states may find themselves in a tough spot as they try to avoid going against their party leader, while still protecting their constituents.

              American Farm Bureau President Zippy Duvall said in a statement over the weekend that "farmers and rural communities will bear the brunt of retaliation" from the tariffs.

              https://www.axios.com/2025/02/03/grassley-trump-tariffs-congress-farm-states

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              @taiwan_girl said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

              This thread is as good a place as any to post this

              Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) on Monday asked President Trump for an exemption for farmers on the sweeping tariffs he imposed over the weekend.

              Why it matters: Republican lawmakers from agricultural states may find themselves in a tough spot as they try to avoid going against their party leader, while still protecting their constituents.

              American Farm Bureau President Zippy Duvall said in a statement over the weekend that "farmers and rural communities will bear the brunt of retaliation" from the tariffs.

              https://www.axios.com/2025/02/03/grassley-trump-tariffs-congress-farm-states

              Follow up to the above from a couple of months ago:

              President Trump is prepared to bail out American farmers if the trade war continues squeezing commodity exports, Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins said Sunday.

              Why it matters: Exports of key commodities are plunging, particularly soybean and pork sales to China, threatening tens of billions of dollars in farm income.
              What they're saying: "First of all, the prayer is that that doesn't need to happen — but secondly, if it does, for the short term, just as in Trump 1, we are preparing for that," Rollins told CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday.

              Catch up quick: In Trump's first term, amid a smaller trade war with China, the government rolled out tens of billions of dollars in farm subsidies.

              Those bailouts, collectively, ended up being so large that they almost equaled the tariff revenue generated.

              The intrigue: Agriculture consultants and economists tell Axios that farmers don't necessarily want bailouts — they want trade certainty so they can harvest and sell their crops.

              "Trade aid isn't going to be farmers' first choice for a solution of all this, farmers prefer to earn their money from the markets," American Soybean Association economist Jacquie Holland said this week.

              The bottom line: Rollins said it would probably be a few months before any need for aid was evident.

              "I don't think we're going to need it, but if we do, it will be there," she said.

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                @blondie @Renauda @xenon What is the mood/thoughts on the election today?

                RenaudaR Offline
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                @taiwan_girl said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                @blondie @Renauda @xenon What is the mood/thoughts on the election today?

                No different from yesterday. Liberal majority. Poilievre is toast as Conservative leader and the party will split yet again. NDP will also be decimated.

                Elbows up!

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  Seriously, Trump should just stop:

                  https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/donald-trump-election-canada-truth-social-1.7520212

                  Trump grows evermore loathsome as each day passes.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    Yes, he should.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      Chuck Todd:

                      “He’s doing some last minute GOTV for the Carney campaign.”

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          Wow. Poilievre even lost his seat.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            Is there nothing Trump can't do?

                            I was only joking

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                              January 1st he was a shoe-in for PM. Today he loses his day job. It’s quite a reversal of fortune.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                It could be anything. I'll wait for further information before passing any judgments.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Offline
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                                  Liberal Canada is going to be so jealous when they see all those factory jobs in America.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Here's a slightly more detailed image:

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                                      Because I am lazy, I will ask here. 555

                                      Why did the New Democratic Party reduce so much? What is their "platform"?

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                                        I'm guessing 60% of them jumped to the liberal party ship, along with 10% of the conservatives. To answer your question, I think the New Dem Part is "left" of the liberal party, so perhaps folks were looking for pragmatic moderation in order to defeat the conservatives.

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                                          When I lived there the main reason to vote NDP seemed to be to feel better about yourself. I'm not sure whether that's still true. Presumably left-leaning people felt it was more important to vote for somebody who can actually win?

                                          I was only joking

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