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  • 89th8 89th

    Actually if you listen to what he says, he gives away his poker hand. He says "we don't need their lumber, we don't need their energy"... aka that is EXACTLY what Trump wants. The trade deficit thing is purely a distraction.

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    @89th

    if you subtract the Canadian oil and gas imports into the US, the USA runs a trade surplus for goods and services exported to Canada.

    As well Trump is wholly disingenuous about the dairy trade. For one, Canada is the largest importer of US dairy products in the world. Secondly, US dairy products have never been subjected to Canadian tariffs simply because the US has never even met its allowable quota of dairy exports let alone exceed them. The 250% tariff is there only if the allowable quota under the terms of CUSMA are exceeded. Here are the facts spelled out in plain detail:

    https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7483049

    Trump conveniently ignores the fact that CUSMA bears his signature.

    Elbows up!

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    • 89th8 89th

      Actually if you listen to what he says, he gives away his poker hand. He says "we don't need their lumber, we don't need their energy"... aka that is EXACTLY what Trump wants. The trade deficit thing is purely a distraction.

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      @89th said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

      Actually if you listen to what he says, he gives away his poker hand. He says "we don't need their lumber, we don't need their energy"... aka that is EXACTLY what Trump wants. The trade deficit thing is purely a distraction.

      He's so convinced in his own view that he's this subtle negotiator, and yet he's so bloody obvious.

      Once again, they think we're idiots.

      I was only joking

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        The lady don doth protest too much about what "we don't need".

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            Canadians are fired up:

            Link to video

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              #445

              With that video title I was really hoping to hear Jordan himself comment.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                With that video title I was really hoping to hear Jordan himself comment.

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                @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                With that video title I was really hoping to hear Jordan himself comment.

                I know - I’ve been meaning to watch the whole video to see what Jordan says.

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                  @89th said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

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                  That’s a little misleading. You also have to remember that not all oil is created equally. Most of our own refineries are set up to process “heavy” and “sour” crude oil, while most of the oil drilled in the US is lighter and sweeter. That’s a big part of the reason why we import so much oil even though we produce even more. The type we produce isn’t the type we are set up to process.

                  The Brad

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                    I've heard lots of people note that Canada's liberal politicians have gotten a boost from the reaction against Trump. Eric Kaufmann most recently. He's a long-time favorite commentator of mine.

                    Link to video

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      #449

                      @Horace

                      I've heard lots of people note that Canada's liberal politicians have gotten a boost from the reaction against Trump.

                      Trump has not given a boost to liberal politicians. Rather he has turned the electorate in this country away from both left and right populists and back towards the non populist centre.

                      The decidedly left populist NDP has lost its moderates toward the centre and the right populist Conservative Party of Canada has lost its traditional base of what we called “red Tories” - such as myself who find the right populist trend repugnant - towards centre. The loss to left NDP and the right Conservative Party has been to the benefit of the Liberal Party of Canada. Meanwhile the Liberal Party is returning to its traditional centre right/left position that it had occupied before the advent of Justin Trudeau who, during his decade long tenure, pulled the party away from the centre and towards the progressive left.

                      Elbows up!

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                        @renauda .. I agree. Well said.

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                          https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canadas-carney-poised-call-election-seeks-mandate-tackle-trump-2025-03-23/

                          New Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney on Sunday called a snap election for April 28, saying he needed a strong mandate to deal with the threat posed by U.S. President Donald Trump, who "wants to break us so America can own us."

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                            Alberta premier faces backlash for asking America to pause tariffs until after election:

                            https://globalnews.ca/news/11094625/danielle-smith-tariffs-canada-election/

                            Elbows up!

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                              How real is that @Renauda - I saw the articles, but not sure if people really cared on the ground.

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                                @xenon

                                Albertans care. What the article doesn’t mention is that Smith and her government are dealing with a growing scandal related to its procurement practices in health care services.

                                https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/athana-mentzelopoulos-ahs-alberta-health-services-lagrange-1.7489988

                                Smith defaults to confrontation with Ottawa as a means to deflect attention away from her and her government’s incompetence.

                                So yeah, people care.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  @Renauda I’m thinking Danielle best STFU to any of the Americans, and speak as a Canadian on board with Canada. FFS. On her home front, there’s a whole slew of urban youth (Canada and foreign born) worshipping Nenshi to worry of. And, there’s plenty of us old ones without good healthcare.

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                                    @Renauda I’m thinking Danielle best STFU to any of the Americans, and speak as a Canadian on board with Canada. FFS. On her home front, there’s a whole slew of urban youth (Canada and foreign born) worshipping Nenshi to worry of. And, there’s plenty of us old ones without good healthcare.

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                                    @blondie

                                    Yes, Smith should either shut up or move to the US.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-announces-25-tariffs-on-all-foreign-made-vehicles-213256123.html

                                      I can’t believe the GOP is letting this guy set fire to the economy. Pure incompetence.

                                      Let’s watch those BYD cars from
                                      China start getting some serious share around the world. (I think they cost as low as $13k and the new ones charge in 5 mins). Canada currently has a 100% tariff on them (following the US’s lead)

                                      Put aside all other topics. I can’t think of anything Harris would have done that’s even in the same universe as how stupid this is. And she’s incompetent too.

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                                        On the bright side - we can spend the DOGE savings on a new tariffs compliance agency, and companies can spend part of their tax cuts on a new tariff analysis agency.

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                                          https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-announces-25-tariffs-on-all-foreign-made-vehicles-213256123.html

                                          I can’t believe the GOP is letting this guy set fire to the economy. Pure incompetence.

                                          Let’s watch those BYD cars from
                                          China start getting some serious share around the world. (I think they cost as low as $13k and the new ones charge in 5 mins). Canada currently has a 100% tariff on them (following the US’s lead)

                                          Put aside all other topics. I can’t think of anything Harris would have done that’s even in the same universe as how stupid this is. And she’s incompetent too.

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                                          @xenon said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-announces-25-tariffs-on-all-foreign-made-vehicles-213256123.html

                                          I can’t believe the GOP is letting this guy set fire to the economy. Pure incompetence.

                                          It really is remarkable. I wonder if the history books will remember this time for how the branches of government were tested in the scenario of: what would happen if the legislative majority was so scared to "check/balance" the executive branch out of fear of not being re-elected due to a loyalty-hungry President's wrath.

                                          Maybe the 2026 mid-terms will be a massive wake-up call similar to the 2018 blue wave (representatives and governorships).

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