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    Renauda
    wrote on 21 Mar 2025, 13:21 last edited by Renauda
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    I am so proud be a citizen of “nastiest” country in the world. Nasty!

    Link to video

    Elbows up!

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 21 Mar 2025, 13:52 last edited by
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      What a mind.

      I was only joking

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        89th
        wrote on 21 Mar 2025, 14:00 last edited by
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        Canada has land, oil, and trees. That's what he wants. Not sure he knows about the mosquitos.

        I love how he didn't like "nasty Canada" because "they didn't tell the truth". Bro... 30,573. Here's a mirror.

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          89th
          wrote on 21 Mar 2025, 14:01 last edited by
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          Actually if you listen to what he says, he gives away his poker hand. He says "we don't need their lumber, we don't need their energy"... aka that is EXACTLY what Trump wants. The trade deficit thing is purely a distraction.

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          • 8 89th
            21 Mar 2025, 14:01

            Actually if you listen to what he says, he gives away his poker hand. He says "we don't need their lumber, we don't need their energy"... aka that is EXACTLY what Trump wants. The trade deficit thing is purely a distraction.

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            Renauda
            wrote on 21 Mar 2025, 14:21 last edited by Renauda
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            @89th

            if you subtract the Canadian oil and gas imports into the US, the USA runs a trade surplus for goods and services exported to Canada.

            As well Trump is wholly disingenuous about the dairy trade. For one, Canada is the largest importer of US dairy products in the world. Secondly, US dairy products have never been subjected to Canadian tariffs simply because the US has never even met its allowable quota of dairy exports let alone exceed them. The 250% tariff is there only if the allowable quota under the terms of CUSMA are exceeded. Here are the facts spelled out in plain detail:

            https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7483049

            Trump conveniently ignores the fact that CUSMA bears his signature.

            Elbows up!

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              21 Mar 2025, 14:01

              Actually if you listen to what he says, he gives away his poker hand. He says "we don't need their lumber, we don't need their energy"... aka that is EXACTLY what Trump wants. The trade deficit thing is purely a distraction.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 21 Mar 2025, 14:33 last edited by
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              @89th said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

              Actually if you listen to what he says, he gives away his poker hand. He says "we don't need their lumber, we don't need their energy"... aka that is EXACTLY what Trump wants. The trade deficit thing is purely a distraction.

              He's so convinced in his own view that he's this subtle negotiator, and yet he's so bloody obvious.

              Once again, they think we're idiots.

              I was only joking

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                89th
                wrote on 21 Mar 2025, 15:17 last edited by
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                The lady don doth protest too much about what "we don't need".

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                  89th
                  wrote on 21 Mar 2025, 15:18 last edited by
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                    xenon
                    wrote on 21 Mar 2025, 15:39 last edited by
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                    Canadians are fired up:

                    Link to video

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 21 Mar 2025, 15:44 last edited by
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                      With that video title I was really hoping to hear Jordan himself comment.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                        21 Mar 2025, 15:44

                        With that video title I was really hoping to hear Jordan himself comment.

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                        xenon
                        wrote on 21 Mar 2025, 15:46 last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        With that video title I was really hoping to hear Jordan himself comment.

                        I know - I’ve been meaning to watch the whole video to see what Jordan says.

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                          21 Mar 2025, 15:18

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 21 Mar 2025, 16:02 last edited by
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                          @89th said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

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                          That’s a little misleading. You also have to remember that not all oil is created equally. Most of our own refineries are set up to process “heavy” and “sour” crude oil, while most of the oil drilled in the US is lighter and sweeter. That’s a big part of the reason why we import so much oil even though we produce even more. The type we produce isn’t the type we are set up to process.

                          The Brad

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 21 Mar 2025, 16:03 last edited by
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                            I've heard lots of people note that Canada's liberal politicians have gotten a boost from the reaction against Trump. Eric Kaufmann most recently. He's a long-time favorite commentator of mine.

                            Link to video

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 21 Mar 2025, 17:07 last edited by Renauda
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                              @Horace

                              I've heard lots of people note that Canada's liberal politicians have gotten a boost from the reaction against Trump.

                              Trump has not given a boost to liberal politicians. Rather he has turned the electorate in this country away from both left and right populists and back towards the non populist centre.

                              The decidedly left populist NDP has lost its moderates toward the centre and the right populist Conservative Party of Canada has lost its traditional base of what we called “red Tories” - such as myself who find the right populist trend repugnant - towards centre. The loss to left NDP and the right Conservative Party has been to the benefit of the Liberal Party of Canada. Meanwhile the Liberal Party is returning to its traditional centre right/left position that it had occupied before the advent of Justin Trudeau who, during his decade long tenure, pulled the party away from the centre and towards the progressive left.

                              Elbows up!

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                                blondie
                                wrote on 21 Mar 2025, 17:55 last edited by
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                                @renauda .. I agree. Well said.

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on 23 Mar 2025, 22:14 last edited by
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                                  https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canadas-carney-poised-call-election-seeks-mandate-tackle-trump-2025-03-23/

                                  New Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney on Sunday called a snap election for April 28, saying he needed a strong mandate to deal with the threat posed by U.S. President Donald Trump, who "wants to break us so America can own us."

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 24 Mar 2025, 15:58 last edited by
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                                    Alberta premier faces backlash for asking America to pause tariffs until after election:

                                    https://globalnews.ca/news/11094625/danielle-smith-tariffs-canada-election/

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      xenon
                                      wrote on 24 Mar 2025, 16:03 last edited by
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                                      How real is that @Renauda - I saw the articles, but not sure if people really cared on the ground.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 24 Mar 2025, 16:20 last edited by Renauda
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                                        @xenon

                                        Albertans care. What the article doesn’t mention is that Smith and her government are dealing with a growing scandal related to its procurement practices in health care services.

                                        https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/athana-mentzelopoulos-ahs-alberta-health-services-lagrange-1.7489988

                                        Smith defaults to confrontation with Ottawa as a means to deflect attention away from her and her government’s incompetence.

                                        So yeah, people care.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          blondie
                                          wrote on 24 Mar 2025, 16:54 last edited by
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                                          @Renauda I’m thinking Danielle best STFU to any of the Americans, and speak as a Canadian on board with Canada. FFS. On her home front, there’s a whole slew of urban youth (Canada and foreign born) worshipping Nenshi to worry of. And, there’s plenty of us old ones without good healthcare.

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