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Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread

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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
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    #297

    The following 22 minute video link is to last evening’s CBC At Issue panel that convenes every Thursday to mull over the week’s big news events in the country. The three panelists are the among the top political pundits in the country. Naturally this week the trade war is front and centre. Anyone wanting to how all thus chaos is understood here should listen to the clip. It’s telling just how much damage the Trump regime is causing to the bilateral relations of the two countries and the level of trust Canadians have maintained towards their southern neighbour. Pour a coffee and listen to how they explain the nation’s sentiment of betrayal and resentment towards the current chaos brought about the current regime in the WH:

    https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6675435

    Elbows up!

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    • kluursK kluurs

      I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

      There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

      Link to video

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      @kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

      Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning

      THis is my biggest fear; not only Canada but other US allies who have been allies for decades will begin to look elsewhere.

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        As Canadians knew all along, the US threat of sanctions against us were never about fentanyl or illegal immigration across its northern border. It was our auto sector:

        The biggest risk for Canada is now coming into focus. And it's bad news if you're one of the hundreds of thousands of Canadians with a job connected to the auto sector. His target may be you.

        In closed-door conversation, members of Trump's team have been pushing auto companies in recent days to commit to drastically scaling back their long-term footprints in Canada and Mexico in exchange for permanent tariff relief — without success so far, according to three sources connected to the industry, who spoke on condition they not be named.

        https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trade-war-trump-plans-auto-sector-1.7477139

        Elbows up!

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          It’s the union sellout.

          The Brad

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
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            #301

            I don't see how anti-competitive union jobs in the auto industry in America are good for anybody but employees of the auto industry in America.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              #302

              Like guarantees not to automate our ports.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • HoraceH Offline
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                A technologically luddite America will give a very small blip of an uptick to jobs numbers or whatever, and a permanent destruction of our competitiveness globally.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                  #304

                  Not surprised that you get it, Horace.
                  Now try to get it through to the lotus eaters American Moses discipleship.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    #305

                    This crap here is exactly what I was concerned about when O’Brien started hanging around the GOP.

                    The Brad

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      A technologically luddite America will give a very small blip of an uptick to jobs numbers or whatever, and a permanent destruction of our competitiveness globally.

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                      @Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                      A technologically luddite America will give a very small blip of an uptick to jobs numbers or whatever, and a permanent destruction of our competitiveness globally.

                      What I don't understand is how Trump can't see this stuff.

                      Is he a cynic or an idiot?

                      I was only joking

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        A true believer…

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          A true believer…

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          A true believer…

                          So, idiot then.

                          I was only joking

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                          • RenaudaR Offline
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                            Renauda
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                            #309

                            “Stupid fucking idiot” is the expression one most commonly hears among the over 45 and seniors crowd here.

                            Elbows up!

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                              xenon
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                              I’m not surprised by his positions so much as his ability to make others do a 180 on theirs.

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                                @xenon

                                That’s just the way of the narcissist schoolyard bully. Badger and gaslight until they break. Repeat often to remind them who’s in charge.

                                Like John Bolton said, Trump not only has no plan but is incapable of anything other than to reap chaos on others and everything around him. That is exactly what the world is witnessing being played out. The only ones benefiting from it all are Putin and Xi.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  I’m not surprised by his positions so much as his ability to make others do a 180 on theirs.

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                                  @xenon said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                  I’m not surprised by his positions so much as his ability to make others do a 180 on theirs.

                                  Have I mentioned the Napoleon quote?

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/07/business/tariffs-trump-canada/index.html

                                    A day after offering Canada a one-month reprieve on punishing, virtually across-the-board 25% tariffs, President Donald Trump has threatened new tariffs as soon as Friday on Canadian lumber and dairy products. It’s yet another twist in a serpentine trade policy that seems to shift on an hourly basis.

                                    “Canada has been ripping us off for years on lumber and on dairy products,” Trump said in an Oval Office address Friday, citing Canada’s roughly 250% tariff on US dairy exports to the country. Trump said America would match those tariffs dollar-for-dollar.

                                    “We may do it as early as today, or we’ll wait until Monday or Tuesday,” Trump said. “We’re going to charge the same thing. It’s not fair. It never has been fair, and they’ve treated our farmers badly.”

                                    Canadian trade minister Mary Ng pushed back on Trump’s comments, saying his claim that Canada was “ripping off” the United States was “not true.”

                                    Ng said that Trump’s proposed reciprocal tariffs on dairy and lumber are “completely unjustified.”

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                                      And people say a woman would be too emotional as President.

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                                        Not all tariffs are unjustified or unjustifiable, especially if they are short term motivators to make our trading partnerships more fair. (The claim about Canada's tariffs on US dairy products would have to be fact checked, of course.)

                                        I am just against the sort of tariff which brings anti-competitive jobs into America that the market could never justify, in the presence of global competition.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          I’ve heard like 5 different objectives from this administration on what the tariffs are about.

                                          At this point I’m not sure if Trump knows what he wants.

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