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  • J jon-nyc
    6 Mar 2025, 14:31

    Hopefully Canada will put export taxes on the potash.

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    Renauda
    wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 15:56 last edited by
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    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

    Hopefully Canada will put export taxes on the potash.

    That would be only done at the request or acquiescence of the Government of Saskatchewan. I don’t see that happening at present, although that could change very quickly.

    Elbows up!

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      xenon
      wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 17:12 last edited by xenon 16 days from now
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      All goods likely exempt for 1 month.

      https://nypost.com/2025/03/06/business/goods-covered-by-usmca-will-be-exempt-from-tariffs-for-month-howard-lutnick-says/

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        6 Mar 2025, 17:12

        All goods likely exempt for 1 month.

        https://nypost.com/2025/03/06/business/goods-covered-by-usmca-will-be-exempt-from-tariffs-for-month-howard-lutnick-says/

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        Renauda
        wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 18:10 last edited by Renauda 3 Jul 2025, 01:38
        #287

        @xenon

        Wonder what happened. Someone showed Trumpma copy of CUSMA bearing his signature? A YouTube video of him proclaiming it the greatest trade and investment deal in history?

        Fear of taking yet another Canuck elbow to the teeth for telling more lies about us?

        Edit (one hour later):

        Not yet clear whether Canadian exports are included in the pause or carve outs. Lutnick says one thing then WH maintains otherwise.

        In the meantime Ontario has confirmed it will levy a 25% surcharge on electricity exports into NY, Michigan and Minnesota (sorry 89).

        https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-electricity-surcharge-us-tariffs-ford-1.7476515

        Elbows up!

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 20:30 last edited by
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          The Michigan one will hurt Trump. The other two? Not so much…

          The Brad

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            6 Mar 2025, 20:30

            The Michigan one will hurt Trump. The other two? Not so much…

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 20:31 last edited by
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            @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

            The Michigan one will hurt Trump. The other two? Not so much…

            Seriously? Trump will consider it a win if he also gets to stick it to the voters in two states that went for Kamala in 24 and Biden in 20.

            The Brad

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              kluurs
              wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 21:09 last edited by
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              I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

              There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

              Link to video

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              • K kluurs
                6 Mar 2025, 21:09

                I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

                There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

                Link to video

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 22:34 last edited by
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                @kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact.

                That's quite possibly true for a number of his bright ideas.

                I was only joking

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                • K kluurs
                  6 Mar 2025, 21:09

                  I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

                  There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

                  Link to video

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 01:56 last edited by Renauda 3 Jul 2025, 01:58
                  #292

                  @kluurs

                  Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two

                  That may be a long time but who knows, eh? As long the regime down there behaves like an ass we’ll give it back in kind and buy from the other guy.

                  In the meantime, well elbow and lampoon the Yankee with impunity and have a good self deprecating laugh as appropriate:

                  Link to video

                  Elbows up!

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                    xenon
                    wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 02:04 last edited by
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                    It’s the globalists that tanked the market, the globalists

                    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/trump-blames-globalists-for-stock-market-sell-off.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user/CNBC

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                    • X xenon
                      7 Mar 2025, 02:04

                      It’s the globalists that tanked the market, the globalists

                      https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/trump-blames-globalists-for-stock-market-sell-off.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user/CNBC

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 02:16 last edited by
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                      @xenon said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                      It’s the globalists that tanked the market, the globalists

                      https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/trump-blames-globalists-for-stock-market-sell-off.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user/CNBC

                      Ah, mysterious people hiding in the shadows.

                      I think it's pretty obvious why the stock market is going to shit, and blaming the Jews globalists really isn't going to cut it.

                      I was only joking

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 02:17 last edited by Renauda 3 Aug 2025, 16:09
                        #295

                        Oh Noes!

                        It’s the Barge!

                        Eeeeek!

                        Elbows up!

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                        • K kluurs
                          6 Mar 2025, 21:09

                          I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

                          There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

                          Link to video

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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 12:37 last edited by
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                          About that shipping/ship building video that @kluurs posted ...

                          1. Just a suspicion ... the speaker maybe a long time China bull or China supporter so may have a pro-China bias. Just a suspicion as I see quite a few YouTube channels/personalities that regularly pump out reasonable-sounding (sometimes even academic) pro-China analysis. I don't have anything to refute what is presented in that video.

                          2. Quite impressive that the speaker can complete the entire monologue in such a polished manner in one take. I admire that skill.

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 16:06 last edited by Renauda 3 Jul 2025, 16:14
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                            The following 22 minute video link is to last evening’s CBC At Issue panel that convenes every Thursday to mull over the week’s big news events in the country. The three panelists are the among the top political pundits in the country. Naturally this week the trade war is front and centre. Anyone wanting to how all thus chaos is understood here should listen to the clip. It’s telling just how much damage the Trump regime is causing to the bilateral relations of the two countries and the level of trust Canadians have maintained towards their southern neighbour. Pour a coffee and listen to how they explain the nation’s sentiment of betrayal and resentment towards the current chaos brought about the current regime in the WH:

                            https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6675435

                            Elbows up!

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                            • K kluurs
                              6 Mar 2025, 21:09

                              I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

                              There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

                              Link to video

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 18:02 last edited by
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                              @kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                              Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning

                              THis is my biggest fear; not only Canada but other US allies who have been allies for decades will begin to look elsewhere.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 19:16 last edited by
                                #299

                                As Canadians knew all along, the US threat of sanctions against us were never about fentanyl or illegal immigration across its northern border. It was our auto sector:

                                The biggest risk for Canada is now coming into focus. And it's bad news if you're one of the hundreds of thousands of Canadians with a job connected to the auto sector. His target may be you.

                                In closed-door conversation, members of Trump's team have been pushing auto companies in recent days to commit to drastically scaling back their long-term footprints in Canada and Mexico in exchange for permanent tariff relief — without success so far, according to three sources connected to the industry, who spoke on condition they not be named.

                                https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trade-war-trump-plans-auto-sector-1.7477139

                                Elbows up!

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 20:49 last edited by
                                  #300

                                  It’s the union sellout.

                                  The Brad

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 20:57 last edited by Horace 3 Jul 2025, 21:03
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                                    I don't see how anti-competitive union jobs in the auto industry in America are good for anybody but employees of the auto industry in America.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 21:07 last edited by
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                                      Like guarantees not to automate our ports.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 21:11 last edited by
                                        #303

                                        A technologically luddite America will give a very small blip of an uptick to jobs numbers or whatever, and a permanent destruction of our competitiveness globally.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 21:19 last edited by Renauda 3 Jul 2025, 21:47
                                          #304

                                          Not surprised that you get it, Horace.
                                          Now try to get it through to the lotus eaters American Moses discipleship.

                                          Elbows up!

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