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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #277

    @xenon

    No big deal.

    Well the CEO’s of Ford, GM and Stellantis pushed back and were granted a 30 day postponement on tariffs on all vehicles manufactured under CUSMA to which the US is legally still bound to adhere.

    I think the auto industry read Trump the riot act and he blinked. He’s now looking for a way to extricate himself the legal black hole he been taking the country.

    Elbows up!

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      #278

      One of the bugs, or if you’re Trump, features, of tariffs is the opportunity for corruption by granting exceptions.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        xenon
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        #279

        Remember when the government wasn’t supposed to pick winners and losers?

        Does anyone have any principles or is everything post-hoc rationalizations?

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          @89th said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

          I think Lutnick is, like a schoolyard sycophant laughing at the bully's lame jokes.

          (I think it's Lutnick who is always near trump laughing at his jokes during press conferences?)

          Link to video

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          #280

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

          @89th said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

          I think Lutnick is, like a schoolyard sycophant laughing at the bully's lame jokes.

          (I think it's Lutnick who is always near trump laughing at his jokes during press conferences?)

          Link to video

          Holy crap that is perfect.

          Also I'm a proud dad that my 4 year old knows who salacrious crumb is.

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          • RenaudaR Renauda

            @xenon

            No big deal.

            Well the CEO’s of Ford, GM and Stellantis pushed back and were granted a 30 day postponement on tariffs on all vehicles manufactured under CUSMA to which the US is legally still bound to adhere.

            I think the auto industry read Trump the riot act and he blinked. He’s now looking for a way to extricate himself the legal black hole he been taking the country.

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on last edited by
            #281

            @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

            Well the CEO’s of Ford, GM and Stellantis pushed back and were granted a 30 day postponement on tariffs

            That is sooooo fortunate. They should be able to build the necessary suppliers and plants in the US in the next 30 days. 555

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on last edited by
              #282

              Saw something that said he is looking to remove farm products from the tariffs.

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                #283

                Hopefully Canada will put export taxes on the potash.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  Well the CEO’s of Ford, GM and Stellantis pushed back and were granted a 30 day postponement on tariffs

                  That is sooooo fortunate. They should be able to build the necessary suppliers and plants in the US in the next 30 days. 555

                  RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                  #284

                  @taiwan_girl said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  Well the CEO’s of Ford, GM and Stellantis pushed back and were granted a 30 day postponement on tariffs

                  That is sooooo fortunate. They should be able to build the necessary suppliers and plants in the US in the next 30 days. 555

                  If not that, then it will give the auto makers’ legal teams extra to put the finishing touches on their lawsuits challenging the Trump regime’s rationale to invoke the sanctions against their industry’s well established and cost efficient supply chain management system.

                  Apparently, the Trumpigula regime doesn’t understand that laissez-faire implies the exact opposite of government micro-management of private industry.

                  555

                  Elbows up!

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Hopefully Canada will put export taxes on the potash.

                    RenaudaR Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #285

                    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    Hopefully Canada will put export taxes on the potash.

                    That would be only done at the request or acquiescence of the Government of Saskatchewan. I don’t see that happening at present, although that could change very quickly.

                    Elbows up!

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                      wrote on last edited by xenon
                      #286

                      All goods likely exempt for 1 month.

                      https://nypost.com/2025/03/06/business/goods-covered-by-usmca-will-be-exempt-from-tariffs-for-month-howard-lutnick-says/

                      alt text

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                      • X xenon

                        All goods likely exempt for 1 month.

                        https://nypost.com/2025/03/06/business/goods-covered-by-usmca-will-be-exempt-from-tariffs-for-month-howard-lutnick-says/

                        alt text

                        RenaudaR Offline
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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                        #287

                        @xenon

                        Wonder what happened. Someone showed Trumpma copy of CUSMA bearing his signature? A YouTube video of him proclaiming it the greatest trade and investment deal in history?

                        Fear of taking yet another Canuck elbow to the teeth for telling more lies about us?

                        Edit (one hour later):

                        Not yet clear whether Canadian exports are included in the pause or carve outs. Lutnick says one thing then WH maintains otherwise.

                        In the meantime Ontario has confirmed it will levy a 25% surcharge on electricity exports into NY, Michigan and Minnesota (sorry 89).

                        https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-electricity-surcharge-us-tariffs-ford-1.7476515

                        Elbows up!

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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #288

                          The Michigan one will hurt Trump. The other two? Not so much…

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            The Michigan one will hurt Trump. The other two? Not so much…

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on last edited by
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                            @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                            The Michigan one will hurt Trump. The other two? Not so much…

                            Seriously? Trump will consider it a win if he also gets to stick it to the voters in two states that went for Kamala in 24 and Biden in 20.

                            The Brad

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                              #290

                              I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

                              There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

                              Link to video

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                              • kluursK kluurs

                                I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

                                There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

                                Link to video

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #291

                                @kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact.

                                That's quite possibly true for a number of his bright ideas.

                                I was only joking

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                                • kluursK kluurs

                                  I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

                                  There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

                                  Link to video

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                  #292

                                  @kluurs

                                  Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two

                                  That may be a long time but who knows, eh? As long the regime down there behaves like an ass we’ll give it back in kind and buy from the other guy.

                                  In the meantime, well elbow and lampoon the Yankee with impunity and have a good self deprecating laugh as appropriate:

                                  Link to video

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    xenon
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #293

                                    It’s the globalists that tanked the market, the globalists

                                    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/trump-blames-globalists-for-stock-market-sell-off.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user/CNBC

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                                    • X xenon

                                      It’s the globalists that tanked the market, the globalists

                                      https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/trump-blames-globalists-for-stock-market-sell-off.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user/CNBC

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      #294

                                      @xenon said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                      It’s the globalists that tanked the market, the globalists

                                      https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/trump-blames-globalists-for-stock-market-sell-off.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user/CNBC

                                      Ah, mysterious people hiding in the shadows.

                                      I think it's pretty obvious why the stock market is going to shit, and blaming the Jews globalists really isn't going to cut it.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • RenaudaR Offline
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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                        #295

                                        Oh Noes!

                                        It’s the Barge!

                                        Eeeeek!

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • kluursK kluurs

                                          I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

                                          There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

                                          Link to video

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #296

                                          About that shipping/ship building video that @kluurs posted ...

                                          1. Just a suspicion ... the speaker maybe a long time China bull or China supporter so may have a pro-China bias. Just a suspicion as I see quite a few YouTube channels/personalities that regularly pump out reasonable-sounding (sometimes even academic) pro-China analysis. I don't have anything to refute what is presented in that video.

                                          2. Quite impressive that the speaker can complete the entire monologue in such a polished manner in one take. I admire that skill.

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