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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 3 Mar 2025, 20:57 last edited by
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    So as of now, the tariffs start tomorrow. Could somebody please explain to me the rationale of having higher tariffs on Canada than China?

    The Brad

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 3 Mar 2025, 21:00 last edited by
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      None that I can see though the pattern of signaling weakness to adversaries and threatening allies was pretty well established out of the gate with little to no deviation so far.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 3 Mar 2025, 21:12 last edited by
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        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • L LuFins Dad
          3 Mar 2025, 20:57

          So as of now, the tariffs start tomorrow. Could somebody please explain to me the rationale of having higher tariffs on Canada than China?

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          Copper
          wrote on 3 Mar 2025, 22:09 last edited by
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          @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

          Could somebody please explain to me the rationale of having higher tariffs on Canada than China?

          President Trump is taking bold action to hold Mexico, Canada, and China accountable to their promises of halting illegal immigration and stopping poisonous fentanyl and other drugs from flowing into our country.

          https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-imposes-tariffs-on-imports-from-canada-mexico-and-china/

          Now you know.

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            Renauda
            wrote on 3 Mar 2025, 22:30 last edited by Renauda 3 Mar 2025, 23:12
            #237

            Only a stupid troll and 5 cent MAGAt sycophant like Copper would believe and expect others also to believe that the Trump sanctions against Canada are about fentanyl and hordes of illegal aliens entering the US through its northern border.

            It’s about Canada’s sovereignty, It’s wealth of natural resources and Trump’s narcissistic covetousness wanting total control of both.

            We will strike back dollar for dollar and where it it will hurt most.

            Let’s start with electrical energy….

            Newly re-elected Premier Doug Ford doubled down Monday on his threat to cut off electricity flowing from Ontario to several American states if the U.S. moves ahead with tariffs.

            https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ford-election-win-tariffs-eve-1.7472940

            Elbows up!

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            • L LuFins Dad
              3 Mar 2025, 20:57

              So as of now, the tariffs start tomorrow. Could somebody please explain to me the rationale of having higher tariffs on Canada than China?

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 3 Mar 2025, 22:40 last edited by
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              @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

              So as of now, the tariffs start tomorrow. Could somebody please explain to me the rationale of having higher tariffs on Canada than China?

              Do not question the master strategist.

              I was only joking

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 3 Mar 2025, 22:49 last edited by
                #239

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • R Renauda
                  3 Mar 2025, 22:30

                  Only a stupid troll and 5 cent MAGAt sycophant like Copper would believe and expect others also to believe that the Trump sanctions against Canada are about fentanyl and hordes of illegal aliens entering the US through its northern border.

                  It’s about Canada’s sovereignty, It’s wealth of natural resources and Trump’s narcissistic covetousness wanting total control of both.

                  We will strike back dollar for dollar and where it it will hurt most.

                  Let’s start with electrical energy….

                  Newly re-elected Premier Doug Ford doubled down Monday on his threat to cut off electricity flowing from Ontario to several American states if the U.S. moves ahead with tariffs.

                  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ford-election-win-tariffs-eve-1.7472940

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 3 Mar 2025, 23:08 last edited by
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                  @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  Only a stupid troll and 5 cent MAGAt sycophant like Copper would believe the Trump sanctions against Canada are about fentanyl and hordes of illegal aliens entering the US from its northern border.

                  It’s about Canada’s sovereignty, It’s wealth of natural resources and Trump’s narcissistic covetousness wanting total control of both.

                  You know nothing about the Trump sanctions
                  You know nothing about Canada
                  You know nothing about fentanyl
                  You know nothing about Canada’s sovereignty

                  Please spare us your know-nothing stupid posts.

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                  • C Copper
                    3 Mar 2025, 23:08

                    @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    Only a stupid troll and 5 cent MAGAt sycophant like Copper would believe the Trump sanctions against Canada are about fentanyl and hordes of illegal aliens entering the US from its northern border.

                    It’s about Canada’s sovereignty, It’s wealth of natural resources and Trump’s narcissistic covetousness wanting total control of both.

                    You know nothing about the Trump sanctions
                    You know nothing about Canada
                    You know nothing about fentanyl
                    You know nothing about Canada’s sovereignty

                    Please spare us your know-nothing stupid posts.

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on 3 Mar 2025, 23:11 last edited by Renauda 3 Apr 2025, 04:55
                    #241

                    @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    Only a stupid troll and 5 cent MAGAt sycophant like Copper would believe the Trump sanctions against Canada are about fentanyl and hordes of illegal aliens entering the US from its northern border.

                    It’s about Canada’s sovereignty, It’s wealth of natural resources and Trump’s narcissistic covetousness wanting total control of both.

                    You know nothing about the Trump sanctions
                    You know nothing about Canada
                    You know nothing about fentanyl
                    You know nothing about Canada’s sovereignty

                    Please spare us your know-nothing stupid posts.

                    Didn’t like my first elbow? Well here’s another…..

                    You can just fuck off and die in your blissful ignorance you worthless cocksucking piece of MAGAt shit.

                    But then you have always been little more than a just a trite and passive aggressive creep with bugger all to say about anything other than aircraft, computers and hollywood pop culture of the 60s and 70s.

                    I suggest you stay out of the corners when it’s my shift on the ice.

                    Elbows up!

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                      xenon
                      wrote on 3 Mar 2025, 23:30 last edited by
                      #242

                      This is wild. I dunno what to call this, but it feels more like a progressive policy. A big tax, a big experiment - and run completely by the executive, without any legislative input.

                      If nothing else, we’re about to see some real world data.

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                        xenon
                        wrote on 3 Mar 2025, 23:32 last edited by
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                        Also - recession in Canada seems almost assured. Things were already a little soft over there. That’s a generation of animosity at least.

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                        • X xenon
                          3 Mar 2025, 23:30

                          This is wild. I dunno what to call this, but it feels more like a progressive policy. A big tax, a big experiment - and run completely by the executive, without any legislative input.

                          If nothing else, we’re about to see some real world data.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 3 Mar 2025, 23:32 last edited by
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                          @xenon said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          This is wild. I dunno what to call this, but it feels more like a progressive policy. A big tax, a big experiment - and run completely by the executive, without any legislative input.

                          If nothing else, we’re about to see some real world data.

                          Haven't seen this many humans sacrificed to scientific experiments since the Nazis.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • C Copper
                            3 Mar 2025, 22:09

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                            Could somebody please explain to me the rationale of having higher tariffs on Canada than China?

                            President Trump is taking bold action to hold Mexico, Canada, and China accountable to their promises of halting illegal immigration and stopping poisonous fentanyl and other drugs from flowing into our country.

                            https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-imposes-tariffs-on-imports-from-canada-mexico-and-china/

                            Now you know.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 3 Mar 2025, 23:35 last edited by
                            #245

                            @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                            Could somebody please explain to me the rationale of having higher tariffs on Canada than China?

                            President Trump is taking bold action to hold Mexico, Canada, and China accountable to their promises of halting illegal immigration and stopping poisonous fentanyl and other drugs from flowing into our country.

                            https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-imposes-tariffs-on-imports-from-canada-mexico-and-china/

                            Now you know.

                            That’s no rationale. If you believe China’s behind the Fentanyl, then they would have the highest tariffs, not the lowest.

                            The Brad

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 01:06 last edited by
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                              I am surprised (but not really I guess) that there has been no "push back" from Congress.

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                              • H Horace
                                3 Mar 2025, 23:32

                                @xenon said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                This is wild. I dunno what to call this, but it feels more like a progressive policy. A big tax, a big experiment - and run completely by the executive, without any legislative input.

                                If nothing else, we’re about to see some real world data.

                                Haven't seen this many humans sacrificed to scientific experiments since the Nazis.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 01:39 last edited by Renauda 3 Apr 2025, 02:04
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                                @Horace

                                Haven't seen this many humans sacrificed to scientific experiments since the Nazis.

                                Interesting observation.

                                For my part, until recently I had thought the USA’s 19 Brumaire would still be a post Trump event. I was wrong, I now think Trump has already sent the National Assembly back to their homes and appointed himself First Consul without anyone taking notice. We are now beginning to experience what it will be like. You realize that at the end of the first story Alexander I ‘s army occupied the streets of Paris.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • L LuFins Dad
                                  3 Mar 2025, 23:35

                                  @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                  Could somebody please explain to me the rationale of having higher tariffs on Canada than China?

                                  President Trump is taking bold action to hold Mexico, Canada, and China accountable to their promises of halting illegal immigration and stopping poisonous fentanyl and other drugs from flowing into our country.

                                  https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-imposes-tariffs-on-imports-from-canada-mexico-and-china/

                                  Now you know.

                                  That’s no rationale. If you believe China’s behind the Fentanyl, then they would have the highest tariffs, not the lowest.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 01:45 last edited by
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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                  @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                  Could somebody please explain to me the rationale of having higher tariffs on Canada than China?

                                  President Trump is taking bold action to hold Mexico, Canada, and China accountable to their promises of halting illegal immigration and stopping poisonous fentanyl and other drugs from flowing into our country.

                                  https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-imposes-tariffs-on-imports-from-canada-mexico-and-china/

                                  Now you know.

                                  That’s no rationale. If you believe China’s behind the Fentanyl, then they would have the highest tariffs, not the lowest.

                                  And we would be paying Canada since the net flow of immigrants, (and probably fentanyl), is south to north.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    4 Mar 2025, 01:45

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    Could somebody please explain to me the rationale of having higher tariffs on Canada than China?

                                    President Trump is taking bold action to hold Mexico, Canada, and China accountable to their promises of halting illegal immigration and stopping poisonous fentanyl and other drugs from flowing into our country.

                                    https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-imposes-tariffs-on-imports-from-canada-mexico-and-china/

                                    Now you know.

                                    That’s no rationale. If you believe China’s behind the Fentanyl, then they would have the highest tariffs, not the lowest.

                                    And we would be paying Canada since the net flow of immigrants, (and probably fentanyl), is south to north.

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 02:02 last edited by
                                    #249

                                    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    Could somebody please explain to me the rationale of having higher tariffs on Canada than China?

                                    President Trump is taking bold action to hold Mexico, Canada, and China accountable to their promises of halting illegal immigration and stopping poisonous fentanyl and other drugs from flowing into our country.

                                    https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-imposes-tariffs-on-imports-from-canada-mexico-and-china/

                                    Now you know.

                                    That’s no rationale. If you believe China’s behind the Fentanyl, then they would have the highest tariffs, not the lowest.

                                    And we would be paying Canada since the net flow of immigrants, (and probably fentanyl), is south to north.

                                    Don’t forget the issue of illegal firearms traffick from south to north…. but MAGAt ideology forbids us to talk about that.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      xenon
                                      wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 19:13 last edited by xenon 3 Apr 2025, 19:14
                                      #250

                                      Time for infinite tariffs:

                                      Please explain to Governor Trudeau, of Canada, that when he puts on a Retaliatory Tariff on the U.S., our Reciprocal Tariff will immediately increase by a like amount!

                                      https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/114105388432604284

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                                        xenon
                                        wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 19:21 last edited by
                                        #251

                                        Anyone wanna take a crack at how this is not insane? Best case scenario, Trump tries to extort concessions with this (by reneging on the USMCA).

                                        At worst this is a hard economic decoupling.

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                                        • X xenon
                                          4 Mar 2025, 19:21

                                          Anyone wanna take a crack at how this is not insane? Best case scenario, Trump tries to extort concessions with this (by reneging on the USMCA).

                                          At worst this is a hard economic decoupling.

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 4 Mar 2025, 19:57 last edited by Renauda 3 Apr 2025, 19:57
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                                          @xenon

                                          Anyone wanna take a crack at how this is not insane?

                                          Not only insane, but under totally fraudulent pretenses. It is extortion. Zero justification

                                          The convicted criminal demagogue in WH covets and lies that he is not.

                                          Elbows up!

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