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    xenon
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    This is wild. I dunno what to call this, but it feels more like a progressive policy. A big tax, a big experiment - and run completely by the executive, without any legislative input.

    If nothing else, we’re about to see some real world data.

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      Also - recession in Canada seems almost assured. Things were already a little soft over there. That’s a generation of animosity at least.

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        This is wild. I dunno what to call this, but it feels more like a progressive policy. A big tax, a big experiment - and run completely by the executive, without any legislative input.

        If nothing else, we’re about to see some real world data.

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        @xenon said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        This is wild. I dunno what to call this, but it feels more like a progressive policy. A big tax, a big experiment - and run completely by the executive, without any legislative input.

        If nothing else, we’re about to see some real world data.

        Haven't seen this many humans sacrificed to scientific experiments since the Nazis.

        Education is extremely important.

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          @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

          Could somebody please explain to me the rationale of having higher tariffs on Canada than China?

          President Trump is taking bold action to hold Mexico, Canada, and China accountable to their promises of halting illegal immigration and stopping poisonous fentanyl and other drugs from flowing into our country.

          https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-imposes-tariffs-on-imports-from-canada-mexico-and-china/

          Now you know.

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          LuFins Dad
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          #245

          @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

          @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

          Could somebody please explain to me the rationale of having higher tariffs on Canada than China?

          President Trump is taking bold action to hold Mexico, Canada, and China accountable to their promises of halting illegal immigration and stopping poisonous fentanyl and other drugs from flowing into our country.

          https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-imposes-tariffs-on-imports-from-canada-mexico-and-china/

          Now you know.

          That’s no rationale. If you believe China’s behind the Fentanyl, then they would have the highest tariffs, not the lowest.

          The Brad

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            #246

            I am surprised (but not really I guess) that there has been no "push back" from Congress.

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              @xenon said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

              This is wild. I dunno what to call this, but it feels more like a progressive policy. A big tax, a big experiment - and run completely by the executive, without any legislative input.

              If nothing else, we’re about to see some real world data.

              Haven't seen this many humans sacrificed to scientific experiments since the Nazis.

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              Renauda
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              #247

              @Horace

              Haven't seen this many humans sacrificed to scientific experiments since the Nazis.

              Interesting observation.

              For my part, until recently I had thought the USA’s 19 Brumaire would still be a post Trump event. I was wrong, I now think Trump has already sent the National Assembly back to their homes and appointed himself First Consul without anyone taking notice. We are now beginning to experience what it will be like. You realize that at the end of the first story Alexander I ‘s army occupied the streets of Paris.

              Elbows up!

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                Could somebody please explain to me the rationale of having higher tariffs on Canada than China?

                President Trump is taking bold action to hold Mexico, Canada, and China accountable to their promises of halting illegal immigration and stopping poisonous fentanyl and other drugs from flowing into our country.

                https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-imposes-tariffs-on-imports-from-canada-mexico-and-china/

                Now you know.

                That’s no rationale. If you believe China’s behind the Fentanyl, then they would have the highest tariffs, not the lowest.

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                jon-nyc
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                #248

                @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                Could somebody please explain to me the rationale of having higher tariffs on Canada than China?

                President Trump is taking bold action to hold Mexico, Canada, and China accountable to their promises of halting illegal immigration and stopping poisonous fentanyl and other drugs from flowing into our country.

                https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-imposes-tariffs-on-imports-from-canada-mexico-and-china/

                Now you know.

                That’s no rationale. If you believe China’s behind the Fentanyl, then they would have the highest tariffs, not the lowest.

                And we would be paying Canada since the net flow of immigrants, (and probably fentanyl), is south to north.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  Could somebody please explain to me the rationale of having higher tariffs on Canada than China?

                  President Trump is taking bold action to hold Mexico, Canada, and China accountable to their promises of halting illegal immigration and stopping poisonous fentanyl and other drugs from flowing into our country.

                  https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-imposes-tariffs-on-imports-from-canada-mexico-and-china/

                  Now you know.

                  That’s no rationale. If you believe China’s behind the Fentanyl, then they would have the highest tariffs, not the lowest.

                  And we would be paying Canada since the net flow of immigrants, (and probably fentanyl), is south to north.

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                  Renauda
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                  #249

                  @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  Could somebody please explain to me the rationale of having higher tariffs on Canada than China?

                  President Trump is taking bold action to hold Mexico, Canada, and China accountable to their promises of halting illegal immigration and stopping poisonous fentanyl and other drugs from flowing into our country.

                  https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-imposes-tariffs-on-imports-from-canada-mexico-and-china/

                  Now you know.

                  That’s no rationale. If you believe China’s behind the Fentanyl, then they would have the highest tariffs, not the lowest.

                  And we would be paying Canada since the net flow of immigrants, (and probably fentanyl), is south to north.

                  Don’t forget the issue of illegal firearms traffick from south to north…. but MAGAt ideology forbids us to talk about that.

                  Elbows up!

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                    xenon
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                    #250

                    Time for infinite tariffs:

                    Please explain to Governor Trudeau, of Canada, that when he puts on a Retaliatory Tariff on the U.S., our Reciprocal Tariff will immediately increase by a like amount!

                    https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/114105388432604284

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                      xenon
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                      #251

                      Anyone wanna take a crack at how this is not insane? Best case scenario, Trump tries to extort concessions with this (by reneging on the USMCA).

                      At worst this is a hard economic decoupling.

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                      • X xenon

                        Anyone wanna take a crack at how this is not insane? Best case scenario, Trump tries to extort concessions with this (by reneging on the USMCA).

                        At worst this is a hard economic decoupling.

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                        #252

                        @xenon

                        Anyone wanna take a crack at how this is not insane?

                        Not only insane, but under totally fraudulent pretenses. It is extortion. Zero justification

                        The convicted criminal demagogue in WH covets and lies that he is not.

                        Elbows up!

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          Yeah, this is stupid.

                          The Brad

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by Renauda
                            #254

                            Trumpigula has now even managed to lose his biggest fan in Canada, the one who controls the valve on the oil and gas heading into the USA:

                            https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/no-choice-but-to-react-to-u-s-tariffs-alberta-premier-says-in-supporting-federal-response-1.7474196

                            Right now she says she has no plans for a surcharge on oil and gas exports to the US or cut back on energy deliveries but the internal pressure from the general public and more recently industry, for her to put an energy surcharge on the export product is growing steadily.

                            As far as I’m concerned she just forget the surtax and start turning back the valve and let the MAGAt rabble start paying the new market price for their gas at the pumps.

                            Stay tuned folks, we will stand up to the school yard bully and its extortionist foreign policy.

                            Elbows up!

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #255

                              FoxNews talks to a PA car dealer.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                At this point it's possible he's trying to think of a way out of this without looking like a complete knobhead.

                                Too late, I think.

                                I was only joking

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                                  xenon
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                                  Trudeau called him Donald and said this was dumb. Probably felt satisfying and it played well in Canada…. But I agree @Doctor-Phibes, you need to leave an off-ramp open for Trump here.

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                                    Renauda
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                                    #258

                                    The knobhead says he’ll double down.

                                    Sad Christmas for him, heap big Douglas fir tree just fall across off ramp.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      He's managed to make Trudeau look good. There really is nothing Trump can't do.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Renauda
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                                        @Doctor-Phibes

                                        Trump actually managed to elevate the thoroughly despised and discredited Trudeau just after the inauguration. So much so, that he destroyed any real chances of the Conservatives forming the next government in Ottawa.

                                        Trump is so stupid to go down this path. No justification whatsoever. He tore up the trade deal he himself signed and bragged was the “greatest in history”. An Idiot surrounded by sycophant imbeciles.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                                          @Doctor-Phibes

                                          Trump actually managed to elevate the thoroughly despised and discredited Trudeau just after the inauguration. So much so, that he destroyed any real chances of the Conservatives forming the next government in Ottawa.

                                          Trump is so stupid to go down this path. No justification whatsoever. He tore up the trade deal he himself signed and bragged was the “greatest in history”. An Idiot surrounded by sycophant imbeciles.

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                                          #261

                                          @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          Trump is so stupid to go down this path. No justification whatsoever. He tore up the trade deal he himself signed and bragged was the “greatest in history”. An Idiot surrounded by sycophant imbeciles.

                                          He really needs somebody to tell him when he's being an idiot. It does appear they're all just cheering him on at this point. And not just them, of course. I guess we'll see if any of them suddenly decide to resign.

                                          I was only joking

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