See ya in court!
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wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 20:24 last edited by
I don't think he can do this...
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wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 23:43 last edited by
“Our State workforce must reflect the values of Illinois and demonstrate honesty, integrity, and loyalty to serving the taxpayers. “.
Ahhhahahahaahaha. Riiiight.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 04:33 last edited by
General question, with these pardons, are their convictions erased? Or, does the conviction still stand, but any punishment is forgiven?
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General question, with these pardons, are their convictions erased? Or, does the conviction still stand, but any punishment is forgiven?
wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 05:23 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in See ya in court!:
General question, with these pardons, are their convictions erased? Or, does the conviction still stand, but any punishment is forgiven?
Convictions still stand (remain on record; the convicts are still convicts); punishment or penalties may be reduced or removed going forward (e.g., if a convict was sent to jail the pardon would get him out early but would not compensate him for times he already spent in jail; if a convict have paid monetary fines the pardon also does not get him a refund but the pardon can allow the convict to not pay any fine he has not already paid).
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wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 14:46 last edited by jon-nyc 2 Feb 2025, 14:46
It may never be tested. One of the J6 traitors would have have to apply for a state job and get denied in order to have standing.
There’s 50 J6ers from IL.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:37 last edited by
For the J6 defendants to be traitors, wouldnt they have to be actively involved in a hostile takeover of the U.S. government?
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wrote on 3 Feb 2025, 02:28 last edited by
No it could just mean a person is not loyal to their country, or to principles, etc. One could easily be considered a traitor if they actively resisted the constitutional process involved in the election of a president and peaceful transfer of power. They aren’t helping a specific “enemy” but they are being disloyal to the above process that is as pure of a foundational principle of our country as anything else.
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wrote on 3 Feb 2025, 02:29 last edited by
But really a conman convinced them the process was rigged and fraudulent so under that premise I can certainly see why some gullible lemmings took action to stop the process.
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No it could just mean a person is not loyal to their country, or to principles, etc. One could easily be considered a traitor if they actively resisted the constitutional process involved in the election of a president and peaceful transfer of power. They aren’t helping a specific “enemy” but they are being disloyal to the above process that is as pure of a foundational principle of our country as anything else.
wrote on 3 Feb 2025, 03:17 last edited by@89th said in See ya in court!:
No it could just mean a person is not loyal to their country, or to principles, etc. One could easily be considered a traitor if they actively resisted the constitutional process involved in the election of a president and peaceful transfer of power. They aren’t helping a specific “enemy” but they are being disloyal to the above process that is as pure of a foundational principle of our country as anything else.
No, they thought the process was being thwarted. I've never read of any of them trying to overthrow the government.
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wrote on 3 Feb 2025, 03:33 last edited by
Credulous idiots was Horace’s term for them, which seems fair.
At any rate I’m not sure one would be in a position to bring a case.