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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    Adam Smith’s visible hand.

    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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      #990

      Who the heck is 'everyone'?

      I'M WATCHING!!!!!

      BE SEEING YOU.

      I was only joking

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Bring out da gimp.

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        @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

        Bring out da gimp.

        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          The really amazing thing is that he can still speak with all that dick in his mouth.

          I was only joking

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            lol.

            Well FWIW he is used to that.

            They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              That homophobia breaks my heart.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                #995

                Trying to win the Mamdani vote?

                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  How he didn’t see this coming in November I’ll never understand. Or at least by February.

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                  They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                  • 89th8 Offline
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                    Maybe he's insulated too much? Yeah we all saw this from the start.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      How he didn’t see this coming in November I’ll never understand. Or at least by February.

                      IMG_6169.jpeg

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                      @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                      How he didn’t see this coming in November I’ll never understand. Or at least by February.

                      IMG_6169.jpeg

                      He was on stage with Trump while DJT was talking about the TCJA Cuts being made permanent and the Tax breaks on tips and overtime. So him bitching about the $5 Trillion and calling it new spending when it’s not new spending, just reduced receipts according to the CBO hits me as disingenuous at best. I have no doubt that he’s pissed there weren’t more and deeper spending cuts, I’m sure he’s pissed about the increased spending in some areas, but they are small details compared to the tax rates being made permanent. It really does make me think that all of this is the EV credits being rolled back, and the energy policy being presented.

                      The Brad

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          Worst half year performance of the dollar in over half a century.

                          https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/07/the-declining-dollar-faces-more-headwinds-after-posting-worst-first-half-return-in-52-years.html

                          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                            If Biden had that performance, Trump would be posting about how the dollar has "had the worst performance in 50 years, some say all time!"

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                              At least we have our own @Copper !

                              Trump adds a 50% tax to imported copper: https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/08/trump-tariffs-copper-trade.html

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                                Kalshi, the betting market for which Don Jr is an ‘advisor’, is now predicting close to 50T of debt by the time Trump is finished.

                                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                  Let's fast forward and say this happens, or in 10 years we have a bajillion dollars in debt. Eventually what are the possible outcomes?

                                  • Massive spending cuts?
                                  • Massive tax increases?
                                  • Dollar security faulters and causes worldwide economic depression?

                                  It seems a mathematical certainty that if we don't change something, all the government will spend its money on is paying debt interest. Which would be quite appropriate given how many families do that today with their credit cards.

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                                    Barring some AI-based growth miracle I suppose the eventual outcome will be to heavily devalue the debt (and the dollar) by printing tons of money. Default by another name.

                                    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                      Currency devaluation/inflation … we print (a lot more) money to pay off the debt. May or may not lead to “Dollar security falters” and/or “worldwide economic depression.”

                                      Gotta compare with the alternatives. Cutting spending too much or increasing taxes too much may also lead to some versions and degrees of “Dollar security falters” and/or “worldwide economic depression.” There may be some versions of “printing money” that are less damaging than some versions of “cutting spending” or “increasing taxes.”

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                                        I have but a simple brain, but an alternative would be to pass a 20-year spending plan that decreases spending on non-essentials, increases taxes for all, with a clear goal of what the "finish line" looks like, and once reached, an immutable law that spending must not result in XYZ debt unless 2/3 of the house and senate approve a wartime approval or some shit like that. In other words, a painful get healthy plan with strict fiscal guardrails in place.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          Kalshi, the betting market for which Don Jr is an ‘advisor’, is now predicting close to 50T of debt by the time Trump is finished.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                          Kalshi, the betting market for which Don Jr is an ‘advisor’, is now predicting close to 50T of debt by the time Trump is finished.

                                          I mean, on its own, that looks pretty fucking horrible, but by itself it doesn’t tell anywhere near the whole story. What would the alternatives look like? What happens if they allowed the TCJA cuts to expire? What does it look like if we cut spending even a moderate amount? The debt service and the entitlement programs would still push us to that point anyway, whether it’s 1-2 years earlier or later.

                                          The Brad

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