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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    @Mik said in Trumpenomics:
    We need more steel and aluminum made here, alongside chips, etc.

    https://fortune.com/article/tariffs-high-prices-aluminum-economy/

    Aluminum is not a luxury good. It’s a foundational metal—indispensable to energy transmission, cars, construction, packaging, and even military products. And yet, despite rising demand, U.S. production capacity has all but collapsed.

    At the turn of the millennium, the United States was the global leader in aluminum production. Twenty-three smelters operated nationwide. Today, only four remain active—and they are not running at full capacity. The closure of key plants in recent years has hollowed out a once-robust industry.

    I work at an organization that researches American industry, and when we examined aluminum supply chains, we found something sobering. A new report from Industrious Labs forecasts that domestic demand for primary aluminum could surge as much as 40% by 2035. That’s a staggering increase for a material so deeply embedded in nearly every aspect of modern life—and we are alarmingly unprepared to meet it.

    Currently, 82% of the primary aluminum Americans now consume is imported, making the U.S. the world’s largest net importer of aluminum. Over half comes from Canada, a friendly and reliable partner—for now. But with global markets tightening, anti-American sentiment in Canada rising, and European trade regulations poised to reroute Canadian supply to Europe, the U.S. may soon find itself at the back of the line.

    In other words, we are on the cusp of an aluminum crunch.

    According to the Industrious Labs report, the U.S. could need up to 6.4 million metric tons of primary aluminum per year by 2035. That’s far beyond what we can produce domestically today. If the U.S. can’t get the aluminum it needs, then the consequences will be stark: Prices for cars, power lines, packaging, and even clean energy infrastructure could rise sharply as manufacturers scramble for limited supply.

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    @taiwan_girl

    From article:

    Over half comes from Canada, a friendly and reliable partner—for now. But with global markets tightening, anti-American sentiment in Canada rising, and European trade regulations poised to reroute Canadian supply to Europe, the U.S. may soon find itself at the back of the line.

    I wonder how that came to be?

    Elbows up!

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      “Your family will have less, but it’ll be more expensive”.

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      @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

      “Your family will have less, but it’ll be more expensive”.

      Two thoughts:

      1. Why does he care that China is making money selling us stuff "we don't need"? Talk about big government, @LuFins-Dad !

      2. Honestly, I would LOVE IT if our kids had 2 toys instead of 30, especially if the 2 toys were better quality. Maybe I agree with Trump!

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        Community Notes remains undefeated

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        Only non-witches get due process.

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            Only non-witches get due process.

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              I cannot say I am very surprised.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                There were actually some intelligent and reasonable rebuttals in there as well.

                The Brad

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                  I’m old enough to remember when degrowth was a fringe movement on the left. But at least we’re at three or four dolls, up from 2.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    I’m old enough to remember when degrowth was a fringe movement on the left. But at least we’re at three or four dolls, up from 2.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                    I’m old enough to remember when degrowth was a fringe movement on the left. But at least we’re at three or four dolls, up from 2.

                    This is a bit much coming from a guy who's lived his entire life as avariciously as he has.

                    How many gold fucking toilets does one man need?

                    None, of course.

                    I was only joking

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                      We are already winning.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        I honestly don't understand how so many people seem to get taken in by his unbelievable bullshit.

                        I was only joking

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                          In fairness I agree 250 pencils is excessive. The silver lining of his tariff policies is that we should be able to put the scourge of little girls hoarding pencils behind us once and for all.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            I was walking my dog yesterday through the park and I saw a young girl with an armload of pencils, frolicking and whatnot. I was disgusted. I walked up to the mother and gave her a very stern talking to about the manner in which she is raising her daughter.

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                              You’re doing the lord’s work, Horace.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                In fairness I agree 250 pencils is excessive. The silver lining of his tariff policies is that we should be able to put the scourge of little girls hoarding pencils behind us once and for all.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                In fairness I agree 250 pencils is excessive. The silver lining of his tariff policies is that we should be able to put the scourge of little girls hoarding pencils behind us once and for all.

                                I foresee a huge black market opening up in middle schools across the land, and unwitting mules crossing the Mexican border unexpectedly dying of lead poisoning when their internalized pencil cases spring a leak.

                                This. THIS is Donald Trump's America.

                                I was only joking

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                                  I was walking my dog yesterday through the park and I saw a young girl with an armload of pencils, frolicking and whatnot. I was disgusted. I walked up to the mother and gave her a very stern talking to about the manner in which she is raising her daughter.

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                                  @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                                  I was walking my dog yesterday through the park and I saw a young girl with an armload of pencils, frolicking and whatnot. I was disgusted. I walked up to the mother and gave her a very stern talking to about the manner in which she is raising her daughter.

                                  The world needs more consumption activists like you. Austerity now, austerity forever!

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    Tariffs on foreign made movies?

                                    He’s completely off his cracker. More crackers than Berlioz!

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      I haven’t seen that. Foreign made movies usually end up in art house theaters where hundreds of people see them. Man we’ll be raking in the bucks.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        BBC reports 100% tariffs on foreign made movies- as per National Security concerns.

                                        USA, you have a big problem.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          God help us if another Studio Ghibli hit sweeps the nation. To say nothing about the next Wallace and Gromit feature film.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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