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    89th
    wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 13:12 last edited by
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    Winning by a factor(y) of 10!

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      29 Apr 2025, 13:04

      Yeah, but if you suffocate efficiency out of the markets and force America to build stuff that other countries used to build for us very cheaply, you will create factory jobs. For every 20 jobs lost from the efficient economy that we destroyed with tariffs, we create one factory job. Everybody knows the value conversion between a factory job and a job in an efficient economy is 1:1000, so 1:20 is a huge win.

      I can't wait for the documentaries following factory workers through a day in their lives, so we can all see the magic we've created. It will go down in history as America's single greatest accomplishment.

      I would like to see factory jobs on all of our currency going forward. And put factory jobs on our flag.

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 13:15 last edited by
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      @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

      Yeah, but if you suffocate efficiency out of the markets and force America to build stuff that other countries used to build for us very cheaply, you will create factory jobs. For every 20 jobs lost from the efficient economy that we destroyed with tariffs, we create one factory job. Everybody knows the value conversion between a factory job and a job in an efficient economy is 1:1000, so 1:20 is a huge win.

      I can't wait for the documentaries following factory workers through a day in their lives, so we can all see the magic we've created. It will go down in history as America's single greatest accomplishment.

      I would like to see factory jobs on all of our currency going forward. And put factory jobs on our flag.

      I think it's important to support this initiative, so I'm going to be visiting a factor over the weekend, and supporting factory workers. I love cheesecake, so it's a win-win.

      I was only joking

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        89th
        wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 13:24 last edited by
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        Sounds like a good plan. Maybe I'll check out where they make Buffalo Wings.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 13:27 last edited by
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          Just steer clear of the sausage factory. You really don't want to know.

          I was only joking

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 13:27 last edited by
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            Transparency is a hostile act.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 13:48 last edited by
              #821

              Whew!

              JUST IN: Bessent says tariffs will not cause shortages of consumer goods

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                Horace
                wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 13:49 last edited by
                #822

                That's a relief. Any word on whether tariffs raise prices?

                Education is extremely important.

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                  89th
                  wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 14:26 last edited by
                  #823

                  His mistake. He meant sheriffs, not tariffs.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 14:26 last edited by
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                    They already have. We got a quote on a follow spot for the high school. It was $3500 plus a $750 tariff reclamation fee.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      29 Apr 2025, 13:27

                      Transparency is a hostile act.

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                      xenon
                      wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 16:55 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                      Transparency is a hostile act.

                      The irony is that the government's response to this private business's actions is a hostile and political act.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 16:58 last edited by
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                        When Bezos allegedly bent the knee to Trump before the election, he was clear that he wanted WaPo editorials to support free markets. Being anti-tariff is on-brand, and principled, and should probably earn him some credit from those who think he was just supplicating before Trump.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          89th
                          wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 17:17 last edited by 89th
                          #827

                          To be fair, Amazon was planning on labeling the field on the screen

                          "Extra Trump tariff fees that are sooooo like dumb: $5.99"

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 17:19 last edited by
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                            I have no problem with the public knowing the cost of what they buy. It's a good thing.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 17:19 last edited by jon-nyc
                              #829

                              They should troll the administration by saying next to the tariff line ‘you can get this reimbursed by China. Contact the white house switchboard to find out how’.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 17:58 last edited by
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                                Link to video

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 20:45 last edited by
                                  #831

                                  That’s clever and well done.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 20:45 last edited by
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                                    The S&P500 experienced its biggest first 100 day loss for a President since 1973, per WSJ

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 22:03 last edited by
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                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        29 Apr 2025, 20:45

                                        The S&P500 experienced its biggest first 100 day loss for a President since 1973, per WSJ

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on 30 Apr 2025, 01:37 last edited by
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                                        @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                        The S&P500 experienced its biggest first 100 day loss for a President since 1973, per WSJ

                                        Here is the Dow Jones showing returns since Election Day. To be fair to President Trump, he is about the same as President Obama at this point, but I am not sure the trend of President Trump will match the trend of President Obama.

                                        stock-market-performance-by-president-from-election-date-2025-04-30-macrotrends.png

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                                          89th
                                          wrote on 30 Apr 2025, 02:48 last edited by
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                                          Maybe I missed it but I heard the phrase "fair trade" a few times today in the news. I'm guessing the Administration is going to start using that phrase up the wazoo until it replaces "tariffs" in every news release.

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