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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 13:43 last edited by
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    @Doctor-Phibes That wasn’t even funny though.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 14:06 last edited by
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      China’s government is projecting confidence that it can outlast the U.S. in a protracted trade war in large part because of the potential damage inflicted by its restrictions on rare earth metals, said Eswar Prasad, a Cornell University economist who has spoken this week with Chinese finance officials.
      “That is the choke point,” Prasad said. “Beijing does not feel like it is going to back down and that the U.S. is in no position to dictate terms. A big, big part of that is rare earths, where they feel they have the capacity to do significant harm to American manufacturers.”

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        89th
        wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 14:43 last edited by
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        Every time I see Nutlick behind the President it reminds me of a weak 2nd grader hiding behind the fat 3rd grade bully and laughing at all of his playground jokes.

        https://www.reddit.com/r/thescoop/comments/1k6ry94/howard_lutnick_all_those_factories_that_youre/

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          kluurs
          wrote on 25 Apr 2025, 00:02 last edited by
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          China needs nada from us - and we only represent 12% of their exports - which they can absorb. Meanwhile, they've made and will continue to make alliances as a result of the US posture. Overall, one wonders if China won't get tired of all the winning.

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            Horace
            wrote on 26 Apr 2025, 14:01 last edited by
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            More Shapiro being shocked at how dumb this all was

            Link to video

            Education is extremely important.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 26 Apr 2025, 14:09 last edited by
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              I'm sure nobody knows more about China than Donald Trump, but it kind of feels like he misunderestimated them a bit.

              I was only joking

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                kluurs
                wrote on 26 Apr 2025, 16:15 last edited by
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                Trump knows more about rare earth minerals than anyone. If you have any doubts, just ask him to name one.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 28 Apr 2025, 11:09 last edited by
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                  Every once in awhile he sneaks out of whatever room Scott Bessent is holding him in to say “actually my real policy is way crazier than they’re saying”

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                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 28 Apr 2025, 15:20 last edited by
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                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 28 Apr 2025, 16:45 last edited by
                      #805

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 28 Apr 2025, 16:51 last edited by
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                        I don’t know about you, but I think “the market rebounded after we backed away from our shit policies’ is a weird flex.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 28 Apr 2025, 16:53 last edited by
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                          This guy put it better than I did:

                          Embarrassing to tweet this. Stocks are up b/c the market punched you in the mouth over and over and over until you realized your bad policy needed to be walked back. You started walking it back and the president admitted he wouldn’t fire the Fed chair so the markets went back up

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                            89th
                            wrote on 28 Apr 2025, 17:41 last edited by
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                            It's almost childish how dumb Bessent is with that remark. The market is still down 10% from when the chaos was unnecessarily started. But you and the other dude put it better than that.

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                              xenon
                              wrote on 28 Apr 2025, 18:51 last edited by
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                              He has audience of one that he needs to solve for before others.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 28 Apr 2025, 19:08 last edited by
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                                I can imagine he is well aware of his assignment, and how ridiculous he has to act in order to do it. I'm glad he's there, and I have no doubt that if he walked away on principle, his replacement would be worse.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 00:37 last edited by Mik
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                                  Sometimes conditions develop because it’s the best idea at the time. One is unwise to muck about with them if they don’t understand why they developed the way they did. This applies to so very many things and I’ve seen my maxim ignored many times, never to good outcomes.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 00:41 last edited by jon-nyc
                                    #812

                                    That is called Chesterton’s Fence, which he viewed as a fundamental tenet of conservatism.

                                    Chesterton's fence

                                    "Chesterton's fence" is the principle that reforms should not be made until the reasoning behind the existing state of affairs is understood. The quotation is from Chesterton's 1929 book, The Thing: Why I Am a Catholic, in the chapter, "The Drift from Domesticity":

                                    In the matter of reforming things, as distinct from deforming them, there is one plain and simple principle; a principle which will probably be called a paradox. There exists in such a case a certain institution or law; let us say, for the sake of simplicity, a fence or gate erected across a road. The more modern type of reformer goes gaily up to it and says, "I don't see the use of this; let us clear it away." To which the more intelligent type of reformer will do well to answer: "If you don't see the use of it, I certainly won't let you clear it away. Go away and think. Then, when you can come back and tell me that you do see the use of it, I may allow you to destroy it."

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 02:11 last edited by
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                                      He plagiarized me!

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 12:43 last edited by
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                                        UPS says it will cut 20,000 jobs worldwide in 2025

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 29 Apr 2025, 13:04 last edited by
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                                          Yeah, but if you suffocate efficiency out of the markets and force America to build stuff that other countries used to build for us very cheaply, you will create factory jobs. For every 20 jobs lost from the efficient economy that we destroyed with tariffs, we create one factory job. Everybody knows the value conversion between a factory job and a job in an efficient economy is 1:1000, so 1:20 is a huge win.

                                          I can't wait for the documentaries following factory workers through a day in their lives, so we can all see the magic we've created. It will go down in history as America's single greatest accomplishment.

                                          I would like to see factory jobs on all of our currency going forward. And put factory jobs on our flag.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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