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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      #787

      Walking back China tariffs now, partially anyway.

      Futures markets are happy.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Walking back China tariffs now, partially anyway.

        Futures markets are happy.

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        @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

        Walking back China tariffs now, partially anyway.

        Futures markets are happy.

        We received our tariff based price increases on our Cristofori (Pearl River) pianos this week. The net effect was 8-12% increase on our discounted price to the consumer. The verticals were 12, the grands around 8%.

        The Brad

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          America First is seeking to create more balance in global economy, Bessent says

          Apr. 23, 2025 10:21 AM ETBy: Liz Kiesche, SA News Editor

          The architects of the Bretton Woods pact recognized that global growth required global coordination, U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said on Wednesday. "Yet everywhere we look, we see imbalance."

          "America First does not mean America Alone," he said. "America First seeks to establish fairness in the economic balance."

          The Trump administration is seeking to restore equilibrium in trade through its tariff policy and to restore inner order to the international system.

          "Mission creep" has knocked the International Monetary Fund and World Bank "off course," he said in a speech to the Institute of International Finance.

          More than 100 countries have approached the U.S. seeking to negotiate more balanced deals. "We're engaged in meaningful discussion and look forward to talking with others," he said.

          The U.S. wants to help change the system, "because we want balance, too."

          One unstainable aspect is the "persistent over-reliance on the United States for demand," he said.

          The Treasury Secretary said the Trump administration wants to work with the IMF and the World Bank. Then he went on to list a number of items he says the IMF must do.

          The IMF must be "a brutal truth-teller." Rather, he said the institution has been "whistling past the graveyard." The IMF has been "Pollyannish" and maintaining the status quo. IMF funding must be temporary, he noted.

          The IMF must hold countries accountable for fiscal reform, and "sometimes, the IMF must say, "No,'" Bessent said.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            I have at least gotten an education on the importance of the American consumer to the global economy, through all of this.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              Just more evidence that there was so little to gain with these antics. If one wants to put a coherent frame on it, you'd just have to take seriously the notion of protectionism, higher prices, and more manufacturing jobs. Which is not a better America, but at least it's a comprehensible goal.

              In practice, what will probably happen is that these shenanigans will show up in inflation and jobs numbers, Trump will declare victory over a bunch of nothing-burger concessions by countries that never treated America unfairly to begin with, and the fate of the whole exercise will be left up to China, who may or may not decide to rub America's nose in it, at significant cost to both countries in the short term, and maybe a benefit to China in the long term.

              jon-nycJ Online
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              @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

              … and the fate of the whole exercise will be left up to China, who may or may not decide to rub America's nose in it, at significant cost to both countries in the short term, and maybe a benefit to China in the long term.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  Finally.....

                  Link to video

                  I was only joking

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    Japan said today they won’t take part in a trade pact that requires them to exclude China.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      It's hard to imagine the rest of the world cooperating with Trump in any of his zany economic schemes that he may walk away from next week. Imagine making a permanent enemy of China, over a promise from Trump.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        @Doctor-Phibes That wasn’t even funny though.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          China’s government is projecting confidence that it can outlast the U.S. in a protracted trade war in large part because of the potential damage inflicted by its restrictions on rare earth metals, said Eswar Prasad, a Cornell University economist who has spoken this week with Chinese finance officials.
                          “That is the choke point,” Prasad said. “Beijing does not feel like it is going to back down and that the U.S. is in no position to dictate terms. A big, big part of that is rare earths, where they feel they have the capacity to do significant harm to American manufacturers.”

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Every time I see Nutlick behind the President it reminds me of a weak 2nd grader hiding behind the fat 3rd grade bully and laughing at all of his playground jokes.

                            https://www.reddit.com/r/thescoop/comments/1k6ry94/howard_lutnick_all_those_factories_that_youre/

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                              China needs nada from us - and we only represent 12% of their exports - which they can absorb. Meanwhile, they've made and will continue to make alliances as a result of the US posture. Overall, one wonders if China won't get tired of all the winning.

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                                More Shapiro being shocked at how dumb this all was

                                Link to video

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  I'm sure nobody knows more about China than Donald Trump, but it kind of feels like he misunderestimated them a bit.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Trump knows more about rare earth minerals than anyone. If you have any doubts, just ask him to name one.

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                                      Every once in awhile he sneaks out of whatever room Scott Bessent is holding him in to say “actually my real policy is way crazier than they’re saying”

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                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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