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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    Not going to help GDP numbers.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      Irish exports to US surge by 200% ahead of tariffs

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      @Doctor-Phibes said in Trumpenomics:

      Irish exports to US surge by 200% ahead of tariffs

      That was @George-K making a Jameson order.

      The Brad

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        Only non-witches get due process.

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          https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/china-halts-boeing-jet-orders

          So now China is boycotting Boeing, presumably switching all their business to airbus. Planes parts service, the whole Monty.

          Boeing is in for a rough time, imagine losing all those orders, and Boeing factory people being layed off because of the lost market potential.

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            The country's top three airlines – Air China, China Eastern Airlines and China Southern Airlines – have plans to take delivery of 45, 53 and 81 Boeing planes, respectively, between 2025-2027, Reuters reports.

            Sounds like a lot of jobs. I wonder how many of the workers voted for this.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • bachophileB bachophile

              https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/china-halts-boeing-jet-orders

              So now China is boycotting Boeing, presumably switching all their business to airbus. Planes parts service, the whole Monty.

              Boeing is in for a rough time, imagine losing all those orders, and Boeing factory people being layed off because of the lost market potential.

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              @bachophile said in Trumpenomics:

              https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/china-halts-boeing-jet-orders

              So now China is boycotting Boeing, presumably switching all their business to airbus. Planes parts service, the whole Monty.

              Boeing is in for a rough time, imagine losing all those orders, and Boeing factory people being layed off because of the lost market potential.

              5D suicide chess.

              I was only joking

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                Feldman cowrote this piece. Worth reading.

                https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2025/world-trading-system-dying-you-should-fear-its-replacement

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  Feldman cowrote this piece. Worth reading.

                  https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2025/world-trading-system-dying-you-should-fear-its-replacement

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                  @Mik said in Trumpenomics:

                  Feldman cowrote this piece. Worth reading.

                  https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2025/world-trading-system-dying-you-should-fear-its-replacement

                  Good piece.

                  I don't know how many people voted for the destruction of global trade. I didn't.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    Nor did I. The universal tariff thing threw me off. Maybe he thinks he's complying with GATT.

                    If nothing else, though, this episode will educate more people on tariffs and trade.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      Nor did I. The universal tariff thing threw me off. Maybe he thinks he's complying with GATT.

                      If nothing else, though, this episode will educate more people on tariffs and trade.

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                      @Mik said in Trumpenomics:

                      Nor did I. The universal tariff thing threw me off. Maybe he thinks he's complying with GATT.

                      If nothing else, though, this episode will educate more people on tariffs and trade.

                      Yep. Trump draws attention, and people are educated about politics and all things geopolitical, due to that attention. Some worry that the masses are learning all the wrong lessons, but I think the education has a lot of value.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        And we thought college was an expensive education!

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                          His economic mistakes are classically leftist, I think (though the dichotomy probably breaks down). Hopefully the backlash will be towards more capitalism and free markets. Generally, one worries that backlash against Trump will be too far to the left, but this is setting up to be a backlash towards an appreciation of free markets.

                          If the party of free markets going forward is the Democrats, so be it, I'll be voting Democrat. But a free market GOP would be preferable.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Both parties have picked up some counterproductive alliances. Someone didn't remember "it's the economy, stupid" lesson from a while ago. Pretty soon, the economy will be the only issue. What's funny to me is that many (most?) people have yet to feel the impact of the tariffs. Ignorance, of which our nation has an abundance, is bliss.

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                              Bernie, AOC, and Elizabeth Warren have to be concerned as hell right now… The entire country is freaking out and turning against the pro-labor policies that they’ve always advocated for.

                              The Brad

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                                His economic mistakes are classically leftist, I think (though the dichotomy probably breaks down). Hopefully the backlash will be towards more capitalism and free markets. Generally, one worries that backlash against Trump will be too far to the left, but this is setting up to be a backlash towards an appreciation of free markets.

                                If the party of free markets going forward is the Democrats, so be it, I'll be voting Democrat. But a free market GOP would be preferable.

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                                @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                                His economic mistakes are classically leftist, I think (though the dichotomy probably breaks down). Hopefully the backlash will be towards more capitalism and free markets. Generally, one worries that backlash against Trump will be too far to the left, but this is setting up to be a backlash towards an appreciation of free markets.

                                The right-left divide seems to be breaking down. It's all about Trump for both detractors and supporters. People who claim to be conservative are backing protectionism and government intervention, and obviously everybody who is left of center hates his guts so they won't support anything he does.

                                I was only joking

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  Bernie, AOC, and Elizabeth Warren have to be concerned as hell right now… The entire country is freaking out and turning against the pro-labor policies that they’ve always advocated for.

                                  AxtremusA Away
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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                                  The entire country is freaking out and turning against the pro-labor policies that they’ve always advocated for.

                                  Huh? What are you talking about?

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                                    His economic mistakes are classically leftist, I think (though the dichotomy probably breaks down). Hopefully the backlash will be towards more capitalism and free markets. Generally, one worries that backlash against Trump will be too far to the left, but this is setting up to be a backlash towards an appreciation of free markets.

                                    The right-left divide seems to be breaking down. It's all about Trump for both detractors and supporters. People who claim to be conservative are backing protectionism and government intervention, and obviously everybody who is left of center hates his guts so they won't support anything he does.

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                                    @Doctor-Phibes

                                    Yesterday TomK described Trump as a postmodern icon in this post:

                                    https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/337049

                                    I pursued Tom’s statement a bit further and found this article discussing that view. I don’t think it is off the mark. In fact it seems to be a common feature and we see it repeated time and again from Trump cultists.

                                    For Trump, facts are primarily what one feels is, or should be, true. And what one feels is completely subjective.

                                    https://thecritic.co.uk/trump-post-modernist/

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      Bernie, AOC, and Elizabeth Warren have to be concerned as hell right now… The entire country is freaking out and turning against the pro-labor policies that they’ve always advocated for.

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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                                      Bernie, AOC, and Elizabeth Warren have to be concerned as hell right now… The entire country is freaking out and turning against the pro-labor policies that they’ve always advocated for.

                                      Win-win, IOW.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                                        The entire country is freaking out and turning against the pro-labor policies that they’ve always advocated for.

                                        Huh? What are you talking about?

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                                        @Axtremus said in Trumpenomics:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                                        The entire country is freaking out and turning against the pro-labor policies that they’ve always advocated for.

                                        Huh? What are you talking about?

                                        Protectionism, high tariffs, limited trade, government intervention in the free markets… these are all traditional positions of the “progressive” left and have traditionally been at odds with conservatives.

                                        The Brad

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                                          The term paleoconservative (is new to me) but certainly is a deviation from traditional and/or neoconservatives.

                                          Anyway, the market is absolutely ripe for a moderate to come in that is fiscally conservative, moderately social, judiciously conservative, free market, pragmatic regulations, good at communications, and restores respect/honesty to the office.... would this be a new political party, or will one just pounce on the opportunity? I'd imagine the left will find someone reasonable (not AOC, not bernie, not gavin....well maybe gavin) that tries to fit into that moderate mold that'll win over the country, at least enough to win office. Oh... and if they can shore up some of the latino vote, then we might see them in power for a while.

                                          Trump is absolutely shooting the GOP in the foot, per Mik's note about 2026 earlier...

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