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    Axtremus
    wrote on 15 Apr 2025, 16:14 last edited by
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    American farmers plead for tax-payer bailouts:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/15/farmers-trump-tariffs-bailout-extreme-weather

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 15 Apr 2025, 17:14 last edited by
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      Irish exports to US surge by 200% ahead of tariffs

      I was only joking

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 15 Apr 2025, 20:46 last edited by
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        Not going to help GDP numbers.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • D Doctor Phibes
          15 Apr 2025, 17:14

          Irish exports to US surge by 200% ahead of tariffs

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 15 Apr 2025, 21:28 last edited by
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          @Doctor-Phibes said in Trumpenomics:

          Irish exports to US surge by 200% ahead of tariffs

          That was @George-K making a Jameson order.

          The Brad

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 16 Apr 2025, 08:29 last edited by
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            Only non-witches get due process.

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              bachophile
              wrote on 16 Apr 2025, 10:38 last edited by
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              https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/china-halts-boeing-jet-orders

              So now China is boycotting Boeing, presumably switching all their business to airbus. Planes parts service, the whole Monty.

              Boeing is in for a rough time, imagine losing all those orders, and Boeing factory people being layed off because of the lost market potential.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 16 Apr 2025, 10:40 last edited by
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                The country's top three airlines – Air China, China Eastern Airlines and China Southern Airlines – have plans to take delivery of 45, 53 and 81 Boeing planes, respectively, between 2025-2027, Reuters reports.

                Sounds like a lot of jobs. I wonder how many of the workers voted for this.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  16 Apr 2025, 10:38

                  https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/china-halts-boeing-jet-orders

                  So now China is boycotting Boeing, presumably switching all their business to airbus. Planes parts service, the whole Monty.

                  Boeing is in for a rough time, imagine losing all those orders, and Boeing factory people being layed off because of the lost market potential.

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 16 Apr 2025, 11:25 last edited by
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                  @bachophile said in Trumpenomics:

                  https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/china-halts-boeing-jet-orders

                  So now China is boycotting Boeing, presumably switching all their business to airbus. Planes parts service, the whole Monty.

                  Boeing is in for a rough time, imagine losing all those orders, and Boeing factory people being layed off because of the lost market potential.

                  5D suicide chess.

                  I was only joking

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 16 Apr 2025, 11:44 last edited by
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                    Feldman cowrote this piece. Worth reading.

                    https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2025/world-trading-system-dying-you-should-fear-its-replacement

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • M Mik
                      16 Apr 2025, 11:44

                      Feldman cowrote this piece. Worth reading.

                      https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2025/world-trading-system-dying-you-should-fear-its-replacement

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 16 Apr 2025, 12:39 last edited by
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                      @Mik said in Trumpenomics:

                      Feldman cowrote this piece. Worth reading.

                      https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2025/world-trading-system-dying-you-should-fear-its-replacement

                      Good piece.

                      I don't know how many people voted for the destruction of global trade. I didn't.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 16 Apr 2025, 12:42 last edited by
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                        Nor did I. The universal tariff thing threw me off. Maybe he thinks he's complying with GATT.

                        If nothing else, though, this episode will educate more people on tariffs and trade.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • M Mik
                          16 Apr 2025, 12:42

                          Nor did I. The universal tariff thing threw me off. Maybe he thinks he's complying with GATT.

                          If nothing else, though, this episode will educate more people on tariffs and trade.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 16 Apr 2025, 13:39 last edited by
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                          @Mik said in Trumpenomics:

                          Nor did I. The universal tariff thing threw me off. Maybe he thinks he's complying with GATT.

                          If nothing else, though, this episode will educate more people on tariffs and trade.

                          Yep. Trump draws attention, and people are educated about politics and all things geopolitical, due to that attention. Some worry that the masses are learning all the wrong lessons, but I think the education has a lot of value.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            89th
                            wrote on 16 Apr 2025, 13:53 last edited by
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                            And we thought college was an expensive education!

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 16 Apr 2025, 13:57 last edited by Horace
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                              His economic mistakes are classically leftist, I think (though the dichotomy probably breaks down). Hopefully the backlash will be towards more capitalism and free markets. Generally, one worries that backlash against Trump will be too far to the left, but this is setting up to be a backlash towards an appreciation of free markets.

                              If the party of free markets going forward is the Democrats, so be it, I'll be voting Democrat. But a free market GOP would be preferable.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                kluurs
                                wrote on 16 Apr 2025, 15:06 last edited by
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                                Both parties have picked up some counterproductive alliances. Someone didn't remember "it's the economy, stupid" lesson from a while ago. Pretty soon, the economy will be the only issue. What's funny to me is that many (most?) people have yet to feel the impact of the tariffs. Ignorance, of which our nation has an abundance, is bliss.

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 16 Apr 2025, 15:09 last edited by
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                                  Bernie, AOC, and Elizabeth Warren have to be concerned as hell right now… The entire country is freaking out and turning against the pro-labor policies that they’ve always advocated for.

                                  The Brad

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                                    16 Apr 2025, 13:57

                                    His economic mistakes are classically leftist, I think (though the dichotomy probably breaks down). Hopefully the backlash will be towards more capitalism and free markets. Generally, one worries that backlash against Trump will be too far to the left, but this is setting up to be a backlash towards an appreciation of free markets.

                                    If the party of free markets going forward is the Democrats, so be it, I'll be voting Democrat. But a free market GOP would be preferable.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 16 Apr 2025, 15:11 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                                    @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                                    His economic mistakes are classically leftist, I think (though the dichotomy probably breaks down). Hopefully the backlash will be towards more capitalism and free markets. Generally, one worries that backlash against Trump will be too far to the left, but this is setting up to be a backlash towards an appreciation of free markets.

                                    The right-left divide seems to be breaking down. It's all about Trump for both detractors and supporters. People who claim to be conservative are backing protectionism and government intervention, and obviously everybody who is left of center hates his guts so they won't support anything he does.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      16 Apr 2025, 15:09

                                      Bernie, AOC, and Elizabeth Warren have to be concerned as hell right now… The entire country is freaking out and turning against the pro-labor policies that they’ve always advocated for.

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 16 Apr 2025, 16:16 last edited by
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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                                      The entire country is freaking out and turning against the pro-labor policies that they’ve always advocated for.

                                      Huh? What are you talking about?

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                                      • D Doctor Phibes
                                        16 Apr 2025, 15:11

                                        @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                                        His economic mistakes are classically leftist, I think (though the dichotomy probably breaks down). Hopefully the backlash will be towards more capitalism and free markets. Generally, one worries that backlash against Trump will be too far to the left, but this is setting up to be a backlash towards an appreciation of free markets.

                                        The right-left divide seems to be breaking down. It's all about Trump for both detractors and supporters. People who claim to be conservative are backing protectionism and government intervention, and obviously everybody who is left of center hates his guts so they won't support anything he does.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 16 Apr 2025, 16:24 last edited by Renauda
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                                        @Doctor-Phibes

                                        Yesterday TomK described Trump as a postmodern icon in this post:

                                        https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/337049

                                        I pursued Tom’s statement a bit further and found this article discussing that view. I don’t think it is off the mark. In fact it seems to be a common feature and we see it repeated time and again from Trump cultists.

                                        For Trump, facts are primarily what one feels is, or should be, true. And what one feels is completely subjective.

                                        https://thecritic.co.uk/trump-post-modernist/

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          16 Apr 2025, 15:09

                                          Bernie, AOC, and Elizabeth Warren have to be concerned as hell right now… The entire country is freaking out and turning against the pro-labor policies that they’ve always advocated for.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 16 Apr 2025, 18:00 last edited by
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                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                                          Bernie, AOC, and Elizabeth Warren have to be concerned as hell right now… The entire country is freaking out and turning against the pro-labor policies that they’ve always advocated for.

                                          Win-win, IOW.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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