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    Jolly
    wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 17:03 last edited by
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    It's all imaginary money until you access it.

    In 2008, I lost over a third of my market investments. Took it a tad over three years to recoup the losses.

    The market goes up and it goes down. Never have all your investments in the stock market.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

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      12 Apr 2025, 17:03

      It's all imaginary money until you access it.

      In 2008, I lost over a third of my market investments. Took it a tad over three years to recoup the losses.

      The market goes up and it goes down. Never have all your investments in the stock market.

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      Horace
      wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 17:36 last edited by
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      @Jolly said in Trumpenomics:

      Never have all your investments in the stock market.

      Buffet's advice to his wife after he passes, is to have 90% of their assets in an S&P index fund, and 10% in government bonds. So, not all in the market, but substantially all.

      Education is extremely important.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 18:05 last edited by
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        Right but Buffet’s wife’s standard of living won’t change if she takes a 30% hit in her equities.

        When you’ve made just enough, you need to be more conservative as you age so you don’t get clobbered by a downturn that you don’t have time to recover from. When you’ve made far more than you’d ever need, you can invest for future generations (ie the long term) even if you’re 85.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 18:08 last edited by
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          The Wall Street editor of The Economist magazine had this to say about the exemption for Chinese made electronics:

          If you were running a secret strategy to undermine American manufacturing, exempting popular finished consumer goods from tariffs and keeping them in place for intermediate goods, capital goods and raw materials would be a good way to go about it.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            Horace
            wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 18:11 last edited by
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            I guess he has those people in the bag politically anyway. The people with 401ks and a nest egg to protect, on the other hand, were probably easy swing voters.

            Education is extremely important.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 20:05 last edited by
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              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 20:06 last edited by
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                Another take on the asininity of the current situation

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 20:13 last edited by
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                  Maybe we just don't understand what Trump is getting at.
                  @Jolly, tell us what you believe Trump is thinking by exempting smartphones, computers, and other electronics from tariffs. Thanks.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 20:13 last edited by
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                    It's all so completely absurd.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      12 Apr 2025, 20:05

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 20:46 last edited by jon-nyc 4 Dec 2025, 20:46
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                      @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                      ChatGPT gave me an estimate of 4-7 years to build a large aluminum smelting plant in the US at a cost of ~$5B per million tons of annual output. Oh and that assumes you have 15-20 terawatt hours per year of electricity generation nearby, enough to power about 1MM homes.

                      So yeah, no one’s doing that based on a tariff that might not last until June, let alone 2030.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 20:50 last edited by
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                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 13 Apr 2025, 19:18 last edited by jon-nyc
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                          We import >80% of our rare earths from China.

                          I wonder if they’ve told Trump to request a call.

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                            AndyD
                            wrote on 13 Apr 2025, 19:33 last edited by
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                            Just wanted to say POTUS is looking well, a bit thinner in the face and very healthy. Anyone noticed a difference?

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 13 Apr 2025, 19:41 last edited by
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                              Art of the meal?

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 13 Apr 2025, 19:43 last edited by
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                                I wonder what the rare earths restriction means to Tesla.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 13 Apr 2025, 20:00 last edited by
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                                  The WH announcement literally was called "Clarification of Exceptions", lardass.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 13 Apr 2025, 21:10 last edited by
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                                    Jesus. How do they expect businesses to make any decision whatsoever?

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 13 Apr 2025, 21:12 last edited by
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                                      The most charitable explanation is that Navarro/Lutnick just take their fight public after losing a skirmish in a conference room somewhere.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        13 Apr 2025, 20:00

                                        The WH announcement literally was called "Clarification of Exceptions", lardass.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 13 Apr 2025, 21:14 last edited by
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                                        @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

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                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                          kluurs
                                          wrote on 13 Apr 2025, 21:41 last edited by
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                                          As for an update on "Drill, Baby, Drill", more drills were shut down in the past week than in the past 2 years.

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