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  • A Online
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    AndyD
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    #649

    In a week when I've heard of pretty ordinary folk losing £10-20k in shares & savings, this tariff rollercoaster has certainly had a mindset effect on me; and I'm guessing the same effect on millions of other ordinary folk in the US and China etc...

    In my case I bought a medium sized 5-shotgun cabinet for use as a small safe.
    Made in England.

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      Jolly
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      It's all imaginary money until you access it.

      In 2008, I lost over a third of my market investments. Took it a tad over three years to recoup the losses.

      The market goes up and it goes down. Never have all your investments in the stock market.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        It's all imaginary money until you access it.

        In 2008, I lost over a third of my market investments. Took it a tad over three years to recoup the losses.

        The market goes up and it goes down. Never have all your investments in the stock market.

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        Horace
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        @Jolly said in Trumpenomics:

        Never have all your investments in the stock market.

        Buffet's advice to his wife after he passes, is to have 90% of their assets in an S&P index fund, and 10% in government bonds. So, not all in the market, but substantially all.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          #652

          Right but Buffet’s wife’s standard of living won’t change if she takes a 30% hit in her equities.

          When you’ve made just enough, you need to be more conservative as you age so you don’t get clobbered by a downturn that you don’t have time to recover from. When you’ve made far more than you’d ever need, you can invest for future generations (ie the long term) even if you’re 85.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            jon-nyc
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            #653

            The Wall Street editor of The Economist magazine had this to say about the exemption for Chinese made electronics:

            If you were running a secret strategy to undermine American manufacturing, exempting popular finished consumer goods from tariffs and keeping them in place for intermediate goods, capital goods and raw materials would be a good way to go about it.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • HoraceH Online
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              Horace
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              #654

              I guess he has those people in the bag politically anyway. The people with 401ks and a nest egg to protect, on the other hand, were probably easy swing voters.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  Another take on the asininity of the current situation

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • AxtremusA Away
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                    Axtremus
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                    Maybe we just don't understand what Trump is getting at.
                    @Jolly, tell us what you believe Trump is thinking by exempting smartphones, computers, and other electronics from tariffs. Thanks.

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                    • HoraceH Online
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                      Horace
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                      It's all so completely absurd.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #659

                        @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                        ChatGPT gave me an estimate of 4-7 years to build a large aluminum smelting plant in the US at a cost of ~$5B per million tons of annual output. Oh and that assumes you have 15-20 terawatt hours per year of electricity generation nearby, enough to power about 1MM homes.

                        So yeah, no one’s doing that based on a tariff that might not last until June, let alone 2030.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          jon-nyc
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                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            jon-nyc
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                            #661

                            We import >80% of our rare earths from China.

                            I wonder if they’ve told Trump to request a call.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              AndyD
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                              Just wanted to say POTUS is looking well, a bit thinner in the face and very healthy. Anyone noticed a difference?

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #663

                                Art of the meal?

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  I wonder what the rare earths restriction means to Tesla.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    The WH announcement literally was called "Clarification of Exceptions", lardass.

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                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      Jesus. How do they expect businesses to make any decision whatsoever?

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        The most charitable explanation is that Navarro/Lutnick just take their fight public after losing a skirmish in a conference room somewhere.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          The WH announcement literally was called "Clarification of Exceptions", lardass.

                                          IMG_4140.jpeg

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

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                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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