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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #601

    Trump made an escalating trade war with China, feel like a cool summer breeze. I guess that's 4D chess for you.

    Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        Trump made an escalating trade war with China, feel like a cool summer breeze. I guess that's 4D chess for you.

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        Renauda
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        #603

        @Horace

        . I guess that's 4D chess for you.

        Not at all. More like contract whist or, as we used to call it in the Mess Hall, Bugger your Neighbour.

        Elbows up!

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
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          #604

          Interesting thought experiment.

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          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
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            #605

            The presidential election version of that is "I'd vote for a can of soup over Trump". More of a pithy comment than a thought experiment, though bravo to the writer for the carefully crafted description of a bag of bricks.

            Education is extremely important.

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              #606

              Lutnick and Navarro are probably among the few people in the country to be disappointed by this pause. Trump supporters who were excited about tariffs, are now probably just excited by this brilliant negotiating tactic of pausing the tariffs.

              Navarro and Lutnick are joined in their disappointment, by protectionist populist far-left types, I guess.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Link to video

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  Lutnick and Navarro are probably among the few people in the country to be disappointed by this pause. Trump supporters who were excited about tariffs, are now probably just excited by this brilliant negotiating tactic of pausing the tariffs.

                  Navarro and Lutnick are joined in their disappointment, by protectionist populist far-left types, I guess.

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                  Renauda
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                  #608

                  @Horace

                  Navarro and Lutnick are joined in their disappointment, by protectionist populist far-left types, I guess.

                  Lutnick does look a lot like Lenin.

                  Coincidence?

                  Elbows up!

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    #609

                    Auto market research firm Telemetry estimates 1.8MM fewer new cars will be sold this year. Last year total sales were ~15MM, so this is over 10% drop.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      #610

                      Obviously vehicle dependent, but here are average new taxes by brand.

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                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        #611

                        Do we have any Tata cars in the US? And who’s Geely?

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                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          Next time, everyone pay attention...

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                          • AxtremusA Away
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                            Axtremus
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                            #613

                            Trump undoes Liberation Day, and the market rejoices.

                            The market hates Liberation.

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                              Axtremus
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                              #614

                              Suppose you're a businessman, what would you do with this "90 day pause"? Import more before high tariffs kick in again?

                              As a consumer, what would you do? Accelerate buying imported stuff that you planned to purchase anyway before the tariffs situation changes again?

                              Anybody thinks "let's move more manufacturing back onshore before the high tariffs kick in again"?

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                              • AxtremusA Away
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                                Axtremus
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                                As posted by Trump on Truth Social on April 4, 2025:

                                TO THE MANY INVESTORS COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES AND INVESTING MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF MONEY, MY POLICIES WILL NEVER CHANGE, ...

                                https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114279756371714617

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                                  And with 25% on aluminum, steel, and autos.

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                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    And with 25% on aluminum, steel, and autos.

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                                    #617

                                    @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                    And with 25% on aluminum, steel, and autos.

                                    I was thinking along these lines. Glad someone quantified it. The escalating trade war with china, remains a big deal.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      Some more precision. Doesn’t look like it’s higher overall but consumer goods are.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        Yes, but China’s a hit more people are willing to take…

                                        The Brad

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                                          LuFins Dad
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                                          I think the boat fees are actually as big as the tariffs…

                                          The Brad

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