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  • L LuFins Dad
    3 Apr 2025, 12:35

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Trumpenomics:

    @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

    And yet, amazingly, still better than the other option.

    After the ships sinks, as you are being raped by a dolphin, you find yourself thinking 'well, at least I didn't get electrocuted by the ship's battery or eaten by the shark'!

    This is idiocy. The whole trans thing is a blend of insanity and evil. So yeah, still better than the alternative. I will say that I was counting on Congress to shelter us a little from his more self/destructive impulses.

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    Renauda
    wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 14:27 last edited by Renauda 4 Mar 2025, 14:28
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    @LuFins-Dad

    . I will say that I was counting on Congress to shelter us a little from his more self/destructive impulses.

    Rand Paul is a lonely voice in the current GOP echo chamber.

    Elbows up!

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    • R Renauda
      3 Apr 2025, 14:27

      @LuFins-Dad

      . I will say that I was counting on Congress to shelter us a little from his more self/destructive impulses.

      Rand Paul is a lonely voice in the current GOP echo chamber.

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 14:30 last edited by
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      @Renauda said in Trumpenomics:

      @LuFins-Dad

      . I will say that I was counting on Congress to shelter us a little from his more self/destructive impulses.

      Rand Paul is a lonely voice in the current GOP echo chamber.

      He's been accused of having TDS, predictably

      I was only joking

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        xenon
        wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 14:39 last edited by
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        It’s TDS to think the largest tax hike in history should go through Congress.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 14:42 last edited by
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          Think we will end the day below 39K?

          The Brad

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          • X xenon
            3 Apr 2025, 14:39

            It’s TDS to think the largest tax hike in history should go through Congress.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 14:43 last edited by
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            @xenon said in Trumpenomics:

            It’s TDS to think the largest peacetime tax hike in history should go through Congress.

            For the record (just) one of the tax hikes during WW-2 was higher as a percentage of GDP.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • D Doctor Phibes
              3 Apr 2025, 14:30

              @Renauda said in Trumpenomics:

              @LuFins-Dad

              . I will say that I was counting on Congress to shelter us a little from his more self/destructive impulses.

              Rand Paul is a lonely voice in the current GOP echo chamber.

              He's been accused of having TDS, predictably

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              Renauda
              wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 14:46 last edited by
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              @Doctor-Phibes said in Trumpenomics:

              @Renauda said in Trumpenomics:

              @LuFins-Dad

              . I will say that I was counting on Congress to shelter us a little from his more self/destructive impulses.

              Rand Paul is a lonely voice in the current GOP echo chamber.

              He's been accused of having TDS, predictably

              Yes, and I now have it from an anonymous albeit unimpeachable source that the derangement aspect of TDS has now progressed to the demonization phase. It’s just sooo unfair to the mango Mussolini.

              Elbows up!

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              • R Renauda
                3 Apr 2025, 14:46

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Trumpenomics:

                @Renauda said in Trumpenomics:

                @LuFins-Dad

                . I will say that I was counting on Congress to shelter us a little from his more self/destructive impulses.

                Rand Paul is a lonely voice in the current GOP echo chamber.

                He's been accused of having TDS, predictably

                Yes, and I now have it from an anonymous albeit unimpeachable source that the derangement aspect of TDS has now progressed to the demonization phase. It’s just sooo unfair to the mango Mussolini.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 14:48 last edited by
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                @Renauda said in Trumpenomics:

                demonization

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                I was only joking

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 14:50 last edited by
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                  Someone once said that Maga analysis comes in two forms: ‘Trump is DESTROYING his enemies’ and ‘Mr Trump is being treated very unfairly’. Nothing in between.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    3 Apr 2025, 14:50

                    Someone once said that Maga analysis comes in two forms: ‘Trump is DESTROYING his enemies’ and ‘Mr Trump is being treated very unfairly’. Nothing in between.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 14:52 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                    Someone once said that Maga analysis comes in two forms: ‘Trump is DESTROYING his enemies’ and ‘Mr Trump is being treated very unfairly’. Nothing in between.

                    I imagine the MAGA people are very disappointed in how disloyal Wall Street is currently being.

                    I was only joking

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                    • D Doctor Phibes
                      3 Apr 2025, 14:52

                      @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                      Someone once said that Maga analysis comes in two forms: ‘Trump is DESTROYING his enemies’ and ‘Mr Trump is being treated very unfairly’. Nothing in between.

                      I imagine the MAGA people are very disappointed in how disloyal Wall Street is currently being.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 15:26 last edited by
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                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Trumpenomics:

                      @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                      Someone once said that Maga analysis comes in two forms: ‘Trump is DESTROYING his enemies’ and ‘Mr Trump is being treated very unfairly’. Nothing in between.

                      I imagine the MAGA people are very disappointed in how disloyal Wall Street is currently being.

                      I think the best thing we can do at this point is to nationalize the stock market.

                      The Brad

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 15:43 last edited by
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                        Tariff report cards will be coming in with every earnings report of every company. Whatever alleged benefits we'll be seeing as Americans will have a very steep hill to climb to overcome those report cards. They will be even worse if companies keep prices low. There is no wiggling out of these consequences, and there's no clear idea of how the benefits are going to be felt by 90%+ of Americans. You have to be hoping to someday land a manufacturing job to be the target audience for these tariffs.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 15:48 last edited by
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                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            3 Apr 2025, 15:48

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 15:50 last edited by
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                            @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                            It's not current market conditions. They've been consolidating and off-shoring for quite some time.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              89th
                              wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 15:59 last edited by
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                              Whirlpool is an appropriate image right now

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 16:04 last edited by
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                                And lads and lassies, let me truly invigorate you...Anybody who puts all of his eggs in one (stockmarket) basket is a fool. The market will go up and it will go down.

                                I understand what Trump is trying to do. I do not know if it will work. It is an attempt to grow the middle class into something more like what the country was when blue collar workers without extensive training could still make enough money to afford a small house and a used car.

                                It is also strategic. You cannot depend on steel, aluminum, chips, etc, for national defense, when those commodities come from adversarial nations or nations prone to a threat of instability.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 16:16 last edited by Renauda 4 Mar 2025, 16:21
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                                  It is also strategic. You cannot depend on steel, aluminum….when those commodities come from adversarial nations or nations prone to a threat of instability.

                                  I beg your pardon, Foghorn, but the major source of steel and aluminum imports into the US is Canada.

                                  Stop with your bullshit. You understand sweet fuck all. In fact you’re like a blind queer at a weenie roast on this- you don’t know what the hell is happening out there. You’re just making shit up while you carry the water Trumpigula’s catheter bag.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • J Jolly
                                    3 Apr 2025, 16:04

                                    And lads and lassies, let me truly invigorate you...Anybody who puts all of his eggs in one (stockmarket) basket is a fool. The market will go up and it will go down.

                                    I understand what Trump is trying to do. I do not know if it will work. It is an attempt to grow the middle class into something more like what the country was when blue collar workers without extensive training could still make enough money to afford a small house and a used car.

                                    It is also strategic. You cannot depend on steel, aluminum, chips, etc, for national defense, when those commodities come from adversarial nations or nations prone to a threat of instability.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 16:22 last edited by
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                                    @Jolly said in Trumpenomics:

                                    And lads and lassies, let me truly invigorate you...Anybody who puts all of his eggs in one (stockmarket) basket is a fool. The market will go up and it will go down.

                                    It's where 401ks and IRAs generally are, and that touches a huge swath of people. And it is the report card of corporate health in America, which is where the jobs come from. It is a huge deal, and acknowledging that does not depend on anybody having all their eggs in a single basket.

                                    All that said, one would be hard pressed to find a better vehicle for wealth generation than the stock market, over any of our lifetimes. Folksy wisdom about diversification into "something else" would be difficult to justify with historical results. Admittedly, gold has actually held up well over the past 25 years compared to the stock market. Real estate hasn't.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 16:25 last edited by
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                                      Farmland. Good farmland.

                                      Has outperformed the stockmarket since about 1900, IIRC.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        3 Apr 2025, 16:25

                                        Farmland. Good farmland.

                                        Has outperformed the stockmarket since about 1900, IIRC.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 16:27 last edited by Doctor Phibes 4 Mar 2025, 16:27
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                                        @Jolly said in Trumpenomics:

                                        Farmland. Good farmland.

                                        That would certainly explain the smell.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • J Jolly
                                          3 Apr 2025, 16:25

                                          Farmland. Good farmland.

                                          Has outperformed the stockmarket since about 1900, IIRC.

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 16:32 last edited by
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                                          @Jolly said in Trumpenomics:

                                          Farmland. Good farmland.

                                          Has outperformed the stockmarket since about 1900, IIRC.

                                          Ok, invest in farmland REITs. But that would still be the stock market. And if the REITs aren't the same thing as "investing in good farmland", then I wonder if you're talking about a business involving the ownership of farmland, rather than a set it and forget it investment. My dad's family farm did not exactly make anybody rich, not while they were farming it and not after they sold it, I can tell you that.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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