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  • H Horace
    12 Mar 2025, 15:29

    It surprises me Shapiro was ever as strident about Jan 6 or Trump as the two examples you point out.

    I don't listen to much DW content because it's not substantive enough, just relentless culture war dunks that might be funny, but aren't so meaningful.

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 12 Mar 2025, 15:54 last edited by
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    @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

    It surprises me Shapiro was ever as strident about Jan 6 or Trump as the two examples you point out.

    I don't listen to much DW content because it's not substantive enough, just relentless culture war dunks that might be funny, but aren't so meaningful.

    I think you’re too influenced by Walsh and Candace Owen’s. 85% of Shapiro’s stuff for the masses is the typical red meat, but about 15% is far more intellectual and you see a reasoning/philosophical point to some of the governance points Ben is making. Klavan is hilarious in his openings, but occasionally delves kind of deep into his background as an author and an artist. Knowles will dig pretty deep into classical western theology and philosophy to make his points.

    Yes, 80% is Rush redux, but the 20% makes it worthwhile.

    The Brad

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      Horace
      wrote on 12 Mar 2025, 15:55 last edited by
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      This is all fair enough from Shapiro:

      Link to video

      Education is extremely important.

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        12 Mar 2025, 15:54

        @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

        It surprises me Shapiro was ever as strident about Jan 6 or Trump as the two examples you point out.

        I don't listen to much DW content because it's not substantive enough, just relentless culture war dunks that might be funny, but aren't so meaningful.

        I think you’re too influenced by Walsh and Candace Owen’s. 85% of Shapiro’s stuff for the masses is the typical red meat, but about 15% is far more intellectual and you see a reasoning/philosophical point to some of the governance points Ben is making. Klavan is hilarious in his openings, but occasionally delves kind of deep into his background as an author and an artist. Knowles will dig pretty deep into classical western theology and philosophy to make his points.

        Yes, 80% is Rush redux, but the 20% makes it worthwhile.

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        Horace
        wrote on 12 Mar 2025, 15:57 last edited by
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        @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

        I think you’re too influenced by Walsh

        Probably. The algo decided I like Walsh at some point and I get fed his stuff every day. Well, I do like him, but I don't need the 1000th serving of culture war dunks.

        Education is extremely important.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 00:15 last edited by
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          Only non-witches get due process.

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            Copper
            wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 01:54 last edited by
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            I predict some stocks will go up and down.

            Just 1 man's opinion.

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            • C Copper
              13 Mar 2025, 01:54

              I predict some stocks will go up and down.

              Just 1 man's opinion.

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 02:02 last edited by
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              @Copper You are a smart man!!!!

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                Horace
                wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 02:08 last edited by
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                Stock market? More like drop market.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  xenon
                  wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 02:33 last edited by xenon
                  #159

                  Speaking of audience capture - here’s VDH’s take on the tariff situation with Canada.

                  He sounds reasonable too, which is impressive in its own right. But pretty much frames it that Canada is in the wrong and Trump is completely right.

                  And he had a video on tariffs early feb too, where his point was that Trump doesn’t actually put on tariffs, just uses them as a diplomatic cudgel (eg prisoner deportation). But he didn’t address that here.

                  Link to video

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                  • X xenon
                    13 Mar 2025, 02:33

                    Speaking of audience capture - here’s VDH’s take on the tariff situation with Canada.

                    He sounds reasonable too, which is impressive in its own right. But pretty much frames it that Canada is in the wrong and Trump is completely right.

                    And he had a video on tariffs early feb too, where his point was that Trump doesn’t actually put on tariffs, just uses them as a diplomatic cudgel (eg prisoner deportation). But he didn’t address that here.

                    Link to video

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 02:47 last edited by Renauda
                    #160

                    @xenon

                    I watched it yesterday. He has some misconceptions about Canada. Particularly with regard to how he equates the supply management system here as a government subsidy as in the US and fails to acknowledge that US has been given a quota under CUSMA which it can export dairy products to Canada tariff free. The US. Is therefore treated like any dairy producer in Canada - it is given a percentage quota. I believe jon-nyc posted something about how that worked either in this thread or the Canada Tariff thread yesterday as well. I referenced the dairy supply management system as well in answer to a question TG had the other day.

                    There was also a statement he made about oil and gas exports that was inaccurate

                    Overall I rate it a C. He should do his homework.

                    Elbows up!

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                      xenon
                      wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 02:50 last edited by
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                      He’s a smart guy. I think he knows better, but doesn’t want to lose his audience over it.

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 03:18 last edited by
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                        Still no excuse for sloppy thinking on his part.

                        Elbows up!

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 14:49 last edited by jon-nyc
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                          Seeing a lot of this type of thing from business and finance types that voted Trump for the first time in 2024. They voted for him over wokeness, immigration, and Israel thinking the tariff stuff was mostly bluster.

                          Asness used to run the quantitative finance desk at Goldman before going in to start AQR Capital Management. He has advanced degrees in both CS and quantitative finance. Smart guy.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 15:10 last edited by
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                            It's never been clear to me how anti-competitive manufacturing jobs are supposed to make america great again.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              xenon
                              wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 15:24 last edited by xenon
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                              Maybe, just maybe…. Trump’s an idiot. It’s worth considering.

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                                13 Mar 2025, 15:24

                                Maybe, just maybe…. Trump’s an idiot. It’s worth considering.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 15:29 last edited by
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                                @xenon If he's obstinate enough about some sort of religious attachment to tariffs, that'll do till the real idiocy gets here.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  xenon
                                  wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 15:34 last edited by
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                                  I’m not saying it’s not a different flavor of incompetence.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 20:07 last edited by
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                                    Fifth fasted correction since 1950.

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                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    • H Horace
                                      13 Mar 2025, 02:08

                                      Stock market? More like drop market.

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 19:10 last edited by
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                                      @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                                      Stock market? More like drop market.

                                      Not any more, today it is going up like a rocket!

                                      Let's all celebrate!

                                      Thanks to Mr. Trump!

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                                        wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 22:08 last edited by
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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on 15 Mar 2025, 00:47 last edited by
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                                          North Dakota went big for Trump. Now many farmers say they face an uncertain future

                                          https://www.npr.org/2025/03/14/nx-s1-5320335/north-dakota-went-big-for-trump-now-many-farmers-say-they-face-an-uncertain-future

                                          As they get bit by tariffs, the North Dakota farmers who voted for Trump may be experiencing "buyer's remorse."

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