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  • 89th8 Offline
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    #1107

    He said it’s the price of cocoa, not tariffs

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      That doesn’t add up.

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      The Brad

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        #1109

        I saw another report that said processed cocoa used in Reese’s has a 25% tariff.

        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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          Haha I think I’ll trust my friend who is like 2 levels below their CFO

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            I saw another report that said processed cocoa used in Reese’s has a 25% tariff.

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            @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

            I saw another report that said processed cocoa used in Reese’s has a 25% tariff.

            That still doesn’t account for a 30% price increase.

            The wholesale costs of cacao right now is $.15 per ounce. Hershey’s milk chocolate is 11% cacoa, or $.02 (rounding up) of cacao in every ounce. Reese’s PB cups have roughly 1.5 ounces of milk chocolate per cup, or $.03. There’s 2 cups per pack, so that’s $.06 of cacao per package. A 30% tariff on cacao would account for another $.02 per pack. Retail pricing on Reese’s are $1.99 per pack. A $.02 increase would be a 1% increase, not 30%.

            The Brad

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            • 89th8 89th

              Haha I think I’ll trust my friend who is like 2 levels below their CFO

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              @89th said in Trumpenomics:

              Haha I think I’ll trust my friend who is like 2 levels below their CFO

              Isn’t it funny how in the DC Crime thread you discount anecdotal evidence in favor of official statistics, but in this case you discount statistics in favor of personal anecdotes?

              The Brad

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              • 89th8 Offline
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                Oh you are certainly using statistics, but you do not have insight into the Hershey operations and costs, so in that case I’ll trust the person who literally is in charge of knowing their financials.

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                  In other words, I defer to his statistics.

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    #1115

                    It’s not rocket science. The price of cacao is the price of cacao. The roasting and processing of the beans to cocoa powder or liquor generally yields 1-1 ratio. Hershey using 11% cocoa or cacao % in their milk chocolate is well established, as is the 1.5 oz of milk chocolate per Reese’s.

                    I don’t know the cost of processing, costs for the peanut butter, or costs for actually creating the cups, packaging, or marketing the products, but that’s irrelevant. The questions is how much does the cost of the cacao tariffs and the cost of cacao itself contribute the to 30% price increase. The answer is not much.

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                    • 89th8 Offline
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                      Could be other parts of the company have increased costs due other tariffs (import taxes) so the price is going up accordingly.

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                        I’ll try one more time…If you’re talking about the ingredients, it doesn really matter. The actual costs of the ingredients, per unit, are small fractions of the actual costs for these items. The vast majority of-vast majority of the overhead for these goods will be labor, packaging, transport, and marketing. Especially when you are talking about the volume of production these guys have. Those are items that aren’t generally affected by the tariffs. But… The tariffs make a wonderful excuse for substantial price increases.

                        The Brad

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                          You’re right

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                            https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/13/trump-is-selling-a-strong-economy-voters-arent-buying-it-00561986?cid=apn

                            President Donald Trump this week insisted Americans are experiencing the “best economy we’ve ever had.” Privately, White House officials acknowledge people just aren’t feeling it.

                            The more things change, the more they are the same. This sounds so familiar to what the democrat were saying during 2024.

                            and from teh article

                            “That’s a thing that I know the White House political team is nervous about because there’s a reality and there’s a perception. And the reality is the economy is doing fine and the perception is people are still worried about things like grocery prices, which are still high, and still growing,” said Stephen Moore, an outside economic adviser to Trump who the president featured in an impromptu Oval Office press conference last month.

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                              Swatch, limited time tariff edition:

                              Link to video

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                                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                  Chances are construction workers and contractors are still pro Trump by a wide margin.

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                                    Chances are construction workers and contractors are still pro Trump by a wide margin.

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                                    @Axtremus said in Trumpenomics:

                                    Chances are construction workers and contractors are still pro Trump by a wide margin.

                                    Probably because his policies are helping prevent school counselors from talking 7 year old kids into chopping their testicles off.

                                    Before you ask? Still beats the alternative…

                                    The Brad

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                                      Ax - You should stop asking him until RFK’s policies have time to metastasize. Presumably LD thinks dead kids is a worse outcome than transed kids so, assuming nobody stops RFK, LD will come around in time.

                                      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                        Don't forget 4.5 million kids under the age of 5 dead by 2030 due to the US AID cut. Not saying reform wasn't needed perhaps, but if wea re talking about policies and their preventions...

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                                        • 89th8 89th

                                          Don't forget 4.5 million kids under the age of 5 dead by 2030 due to the US AID cut. Not saying reform wasn't needed perhaps, but if wea re talking about policies and their preventions...

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                                          @89th said in Trumpenomics:

                                          Don't forget 4.5 million kids under the age of 5 dead by 2030 due to the US AID cut. Not saying reform wasn't needed perhaps, but if wea re talking about policies and their preventions...

                                          LMAO

                                          The Brad

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